• UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.worldEnglish
    52·
    2 days ago

    Changing $12 for what is functionally agricultural waste product is so fucking funny.

    Ground beef is what’s left on the cow after all the choice bits have been carved off. The bun is so thick with preservatives most organisms literally can’t eat it. The sauces are just colored corn syrup. The produce is bottom of the barrel.

    This isn’t food, it’s industrial runoff. You’d eat better picking through the trash of a real grocery store.

  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
    91·
    2 days ago

    Americans shop for calories per dollar.

    Please don’t look at why they do that, we’re the best country ever!

  • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
    10015·
    3 days ago

    I’m currently vacationing in Japan and have slimmed down a lot in just a week of walking, eating smaller healthier meals, and taking the train everywhere. America has a truly fucked standard of living. I don’t want to go back to driving and eating shitty oversized unhealthy meals while also tipping.

    • Railing5132@lemmy.world
      4·
      2 days ago

      Vacationing in Italy was the same - smaller, healthier meals, lots of walking - I felt great and didn’t have the shits once on a 2 week trip. It’s a daily thing at home.

    • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
      4729·
      3 days ago

      you’ve “slimmed down a lot” in a week? did you also give birth this week? or is this a bias?

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        4·
        2 days ago

        You can lose 5 pounds in a week if you’re under 50 and healthy. This would cause clothes to loosen up on you.

      • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
        4521·
        3 days ago

        It’s not a bias it’s a fact. My shirts are way more loose on me and I’ve been walking an average of 15,000 steps a day. What’s it to you anyway? Are you upset someone’s making a valid criticism about American transportation and eating habits?

        • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
          7726·
          3 days ago

          Because it’s a week lol you’re talking about losing water from sweating, stored sugars in muscles from exercising, and a teensy bit of fat loss. you haven’t “lost a lot” you’re just on vacation

          what’s it to me? I like to tell people when they’re wrong in the internet. you said something stupid. hello.

          lifestyle change and public transit are great but you’re just on vacation. and this is coming from someone who lived over a decade in the Americas and Asia both.

          • Rentlar@lemmy.ca
            219·
            3 days ago

            Your diet does make a real difference, more than you credit for in your reply. In university I had pizza almost every day for a month, I gained 15 lbs (7 kg) and had a way flabbier stomach. I stopped doing that and tried to eat healthier, incorporating salad with my meals, and in just about a week I started noticing it going away, and I was back to where I was before in 3 months.

            It wouldn’t surprise me too much to see how a body would react noticeably to a drastic change from a sedentary, highly processed carbohydrate diet and lifestyle to an active, more balanced one. Everyone’s body is different of course so it won’t always be the case, but to me the OP’s claims seem far from impossible. Japan still has its share of oily foodstuff, but the average portion is tiny compared to the US.

            • Maalus@lemmy.world
              166·
              3 days ago

              Cool, all of that within a week?

              There is no chance there is a visible change from a week of eating salads, no matter how fast your metabolism is.

              • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
                22·
                2 days ago

                If you look at yourself regularly and pay attention you can see your body change pretty rapidly. I’ve specifically watched my body bulking up on its own before burning those stored calories to build muscle and there’s a clear cycle of noticing a bit more pudge a few days before I suddenly make a big jump in cycling distance or how much I can lift (and the pudge also goes away at the same time)

              • chemicalprophet@lemm.ee
                711·
                2 days ago

                I can lose 10lbs in 3 days if i quit drinking beer. 10 lbs is definitely noticeable. It’s definitely not a real change, just not being super bloated, but noticeable.

                • optional@sh.itjust.works
                  52·
                  3 days ago

                  An average male adult will burn round about 2000kcal/day, which comes down to 2kg of fat per week (that’s 4.4 lbs in freedom units). To burn through 10 punds in three days, you’d have to finish an Ironman every day. And all that’s assuming that your calorie intake is zero, nada, niente. So if you’re loosing 10 pounds in three days, you are either an exceptional athlete or you’re just peeing a lot. That’s also the problem with all these “loose 10kg in 2 weeks” diets: What you’re loosing is water, not fat. And as soon as you end the diet it’s a matter of days to regain that weight .

            • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
              52·
              3 days ago

              I’m not saying it’s impossible, I’m saying their experiences on a one week vacation are irrelevant to the broader lifestyle differences between cultures. its like no one in here has taken a statistics course. it was just dumb to bring it up at all

          • exasperation@lemm.eeEnglish
            144·
            3 days ago

            Because it’s a week lol you’re talking about losing water from sweating, stored sugars in muscles from exercising, and a teensy bit of fat loss.

            Yes, and that is visibly noticeable on many people.

            When I switch from bulk to cut the cut starts to take effect like almost immediately, and I slim down significantly within a few days. I know it’s mostly glycogen and water, but it physically looks very different after the water wooshes out of your body and your muscles become more visible.

            (Also, it’s not exactly sweat, it’s that higher glycogen levels are bound to water molecules, which get released and can actually be used by the body or discarded as excess as the body seeks an equilibrium.)

            • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
              61·
              3 days ago

              Yes, and that is visibly noticeable on many people.

              it’s not about whether its noticeable. it’s about whether or not it’s attributable to lifestyle differences between cultures or if a person is just being extra active on vacation and wanted to talk about their vacation online

              • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
                3·
                2 days ago

                Somewhat unrelated but I 100% thought your uname said “TapewormTraveler” and thought “well this guy would know a thing or two about travel and weight loss” before my brain corrected it. I need coffee lol.

          • OR3X@lemm.ee
            32·
            3 days ago

            Would someone do that? Just go on the internet and tell lies??

        • ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com
          47·
          2 days ago

          I walk an average of 15k steps on a slow day. Before I got promoted out of the shipping dept I used to do 30k/day before I left work, then still had to run errands and do things, now it’s usually more like 10k-15k at work (and some bodyweight squats while I stand at my desk because why not) and go do things. All of this (and here’s the part that will shock you) was in America. You don’t have to be in Japan to walk, even if you don’t walk for work there’s always “exercising.”

          Basically you’re saying “usually at home I’m sedentary as fuck but since here I’m a gawking tourist I’ve been doing a modicum of cardio, and it has affected me exactly as expected, but instead of give myself credit for the work I did and realizing I could take this lesson back home I’m going to turn it into some weird contest and continue to blame my environment.”

          It is possible to eat healthy here too, though that is admittedly harder especially if you’re dead set on not cooking, yet there are healthy to go options if you know where to look still. Buy a used bike and eat healthy at home, you don’t have to have cool foreign shit to look at while you do it, there’s probably a nice park or trail nearby you can have cool local nature to look at too. Or travel a lot and use that as an excuse if you’re privileged enough, whatever, but make no mistake you don’t have to.

      • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
        175·
        3 days ago

        Depending on your starting state/condition, you could slim down a noticeable amount during a week, sure.

        • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
          2620·
          3 days ago

          you could also just say random shit on the internet too, wonder which is more likely

          look i think America is a torturous shit hole just like the rest of lemmy but the above point is just fucking stupid

          • Victor@lemmy.worldEnglish
            167·
            3 days ago

            Are you not-so-subtly insinuating that I’m saying “random bullshit” on the Internet?

            I’ve personally had periods in my life, too, where I’ve transformed my body significantly/noticeably within a timeframe of one week. It can happen.

            A thing isn’t necessarily “fucking stupid” just because you don’t believe it (due to lack of knowledge), or you haven’t seen it (yet) (due to lack of life experience).

            Maybe don’t react so strongly and you might have a more open mind in the future, and allow it to expand. 👍❤️

          • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            1613·
            3 days ago

            It’s good to be skeptical but it’s kinda sad to see someone cry bullshit so easily. Just go be miserable somewhere else dude.

            • porous_grey_matter@lemmy.ml
              167·
              3 days ago

              No, they’re right, it’s extremely unrealistic to lose much weight in fat in one week. Even if you ate literally nothing and hiked up mountains 12 hours a day, which is obviously impossible, it’d be maximum like 10 pounds. Walking a bit and eating normally? No more than 2, that’s already extremely rapid weight loss.

              Water weight on the other hand you can easily lose more than 5 pounds in a day.

              • Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
                59·
                3 days ago

                I never said I lost weight, but I have slimmed down. What I’ve lost in water or fat weight I’ve gained in leg muscles. I’ve already been trying to lose weight for months through occassional dieting, using a treadmill daily, and lifting free weights. I’ve definitely lost arm muscle mass but I can now easily climb up several flights of stairs navigating subway platforms. It’s possible to change body composition over a week and a half if you’ve been priming for months. It’s okay if no one else believes me, after all this is the internet and anyone can lie. I’m satisfied with my own results and that’s all I need.

            • Passerby6497@lemmy.worldEnglish
              124·
              3 days ago

              It’s being a cry bully to point out that it’s physically unlikely they lost any appreciable amount of weight in a week? Or do they just have a basic understanding of how the human body works and not want to play along with an unrealistic masturbatory ‘America bad’ fairy tale?

              I’m all for believing BS stories on the Internet, but don’t get your panties in a wad when people point out parts that are entirely unrealistic. And I say that as someone who actually lost a large amount of weight in a comparatively short time.

              It took months and it was still fast enough that those around me were worried for my health. There’s no way they lost anything meaningful in a week, especially when losing a large amount of water weight upfront and hitting an initial plateau is a known thing in the weight loss community.

              • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
                21·
                3 days ago

                hey, im not one to shoot down allies in an online argument, but last thing i wanna do is look like i’m defending the USA. america DOES suck. its lifestyle is horrible and there are minimal opportunities for adequate exercise or proper nutrition compared to japan. the point i’m making is that someone’s one-week vacation not going to reveal meaningful conclusions about those lifestyle differences. really I’m just defending basic research/statistical competency by calling out a stupid irrelevant comment that was probably just intended to shout out someone’s vacation online than to contribute to any discussion on cultural differences between nations

            • TimewornTraveler@lemm.eeEnglish
              31·
              3 days ago

              I’m not “crying bullshit”. I do believe that you are slimmer than you were when you left, probably with a lot less water weight – but how do those changes reflect Japanese lifestyle? I’m saying that you cannot take your experience on a vacation where you make drastic short-term lifestyle changes and draw conclusions from them

              We know American lifestyles are unhealthy, and your experiences on vacation have nothing to add or subtract from that. It’d be as if someone came in here and said “I ate a sandwich in Vienna and got diarrhea, the Austrian lifestyle is disgusting!” like cool story and im happy for you but it’s really irrelevant. (just like our argument XD)

              at its core, we have to acknowledge that there are serious challenges posed to our own bodies by modern society. people DO live sedentary lifestyles in asia. people DO end up eating only garbage when they’re overworked and don’t have accessible healthy food choices. obesity rates ARE increasing in countries like japan and korea. people DO develop eating disorders in these countries. i watched a professional dancer in seoul plummet into binge eating disorder as a response to the very lifestyle changes that we could be propping up in this thread. it’s so complicated, and one person’s vacation week does not really speak to the tenuous relationship 21st century humans have with food. many of the same challenges we face in the USA are happening in asia too, and in increasing amounts

  • NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish
    544·
    3 days ago

    Anyone who looks at the U.S. and thinks it’s a fucked up country because of the food just isn’t paying attention.

    • psud@aussie.zone
      2·
      1 day ago

      The food stands out. Like Australia has too many fat people too, but our restaurants don’t cater to them like America’s - don’t try to feed everyone a meal suited to a 200kg man trying for 300.

    • Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      3·
      2 days ago

      Most of the food comes from fast food along stroads. It is a core part of the problem. The education system is probably the root, but I wouldn’t expect a tourist to understand that.

      • macjabeth@lemmy.world
        7·
        3 days ago

        Agreed to both of these points, though as an American I will say there are healthier options, it’s just that they make those cost twice as much as the cheaper, unhealthy options.

        • PancakeBrock@lemmy.zipEnglish
          4·
          2 days ago

          Go to a Mexican restaurant. Fajitas are $25 or more. It’s just vegetables with some meat. I can make that at home for like $3. We don’t eat out much.

        • BadlyTimedLuck@lemmy.world
          42·
          3 days ago

          I dunno. As the saying goes,“You are what you eat.” And our elected “leader” advocates the leading producer of junk food.

          Maybe if the American populace had actual nutrients in their bodies instead of butter and lard, we’d be able to critically think for once

          • Jamablaya@lemmy.todayEnglish
            2·
            2 days ago

            Maybe that’s why Trump picked RFK. “Hey Bobby, get Mcdonalds using beef tallow for their fries again and you can do whatever you want otherwise.”

            • Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zipEnglish
              2·
              2 days ago

              Idk why Americans love that stuff so much … I feel everything that has high fructose corn syrup in it istasting the same

          • NABDad@lemmy.worldEnglish
            2·
            3 days ago

            Butter and lard aren’t the problems with the American diet.

            It’s almost impossible to find anything still made with lard anymore.

    • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
      423·
      3 days ago

      Anyone who (likely) intentionally writes the word “snicker” wrong to include a slur doesn’t think the actual bad stuff in America is bad.

      • hraegsvelmir@lemm.eeEnglish
        15·
        3 days ago

        Snigger is just a variant form more common in the UK, where snicker is the preferred one in the US. Though I wouldn’t put it past a 4chan user, it’s also a perfectly normal word they may have learned being taught and exposed to UK variants of English.

        • trashgirlfriend@lemmy.world
          316·
          3 days ago

          That’s so weird, I’ve literally never seen that form used even by people from the UK.

          I guess it’s plausible that they’d just write it like that, I guess.

          The secret third option is that they know that it’s a way of spelling it and prefer to use it because hehe n word.

          • TheTetrapod@lemmy.world
            9·
            3 days ago

            I thought, and a quick Google confirms, that it is used in the Harry Potter series a few times. Obviously, you might not have read them, but for people in my cohort, that was likely our largest exposure point to British culture.

  • radix@lemmy.worldEnglish
    1583·
    4 days ago

    Wait 'til you see the child size soda.

    It’s 512 ounces, or roughly the size of a two-year old child, if the child were liquefied. It’s a real bargain at $1.59.

  • Trantarius@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    325·
    3 days ago

    Big food is kind of a marketing thing in America. Restaurants want to give their customers more " bang for their buck" (or at least appear to), but they don’t want to lower prices. Instead, they increase portions. This has lead to a size arms race where every restaurant wants to claim they have the biggest food in town. This is especially the case for burger joints. It doesn’t matter to the restaurant if customers eat all their food, since they pay for all of it either way. I’m guessing Americans are more culturally susceptible to this marketing tactic, since bigger-is-better is common here, and hence things have been taken further than in other countries.

    This seems to be another case of someone throwing reason out the door for the sake of insulting Americans. There is no way you would be getting “shit eating grins” for ordering a kids meal. And if your large burgers are smaller than a kids meal, you either have very little size variation, or the small would be like a single bite.

    • MoonMelon@lemmy.mlEnglish
      12·
      2 days ago

      Yeah, that worker is one of two in the entire restaurant. She has to take your order plus the five behind you, the drive-thru orders, make fries, bag it all up, take your monkey, clean tables, make coffee, refill the ketchup/soda/milkshake/yogurt contraptions with their various bags of sugary goo, restock counters/tables with all the varied plastic and paper geegaws, take out the trash, stock the walk-in, clean the bathrooms somebody sprayed with liquid shit, then count out and get to her other job by 3pm so she can then do it all again tomorrow. She doesn’t give a fuck what anyone orders, it’s just a blur of colors and lower back pain.

      If she makes a face it’s probably the best she can do to fake a smile because you might be a secret shopper who is going to ding her points for not saying, “Welcome to McDonald’s Home of the McFlurry™ now with DoubleStuff™ Oreo™, what can I get started for you today because It Just Tastes Better!!℠” with the proper amount of obsequiousness.

      There’s plenty of reasons to hate the hellscape, no reason for anon to invent some.

  • godot@lemmy.world
    1085·
    4 days ago

    Between 1975 and 2016, the prevalence of obesity in Europe rose 138%, with a 21% rise between 2006 and 2016. The prevalence of overweight rose by 51% between 1975 and 2016, and by 8% between 2006 and 2016. It is expected that by 2030, over half of Europe will live with obesity – up to 89% in some countries. No Member State is on track to reach the target of halting the rise in obesity by 2025.

    https://www.eufic.org/en/healthy-living/article/europes-obesity-statistics-figures-trends-rates-by-country

    The proliferation of unhealthy eating is a big problem for most of Europe, too. They’re on the same path as the US for mostly the same reasons, just a few steps back.

    That said, if I’m going to be fat, I’d rather it be because of schnitzel the size of a dinner plate or cacio e pepe over a Monster Burger.

    • Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
      1·
      2 days ago

      Nothing beats a cheeseburger. Btw, it’s not cheeseburgers making us fat, for the most part. It’s soda, and low quality food products with excess sugar and refined carbs.

    • ddplf@szmer.info
      333·
      4 days ago

      That said, if I’m going to be fat, I’d rather it be because of schnitzel the size of a dinner plate or cacio e pepe over a Monster Burger.

      Do you actually believe that these numbers are from common people eating quality food?

      • godot@lemmy.world
        30·
        4 days ago

        No. I think it’s for the reasons outlined or suggested in the link I included: increased cost of healthy ingredients, decreased accessibility to the same, people struggling to find time to eat well in the increasingly fast paced world, etc.

        My mentioning my personal preference is mostly a concession to nuggets of truth in the 4chan post. It’s also true; there is nothing common about how I would prefer to consume quality food.

      • Echolynx@lemmy.zipEnglish
        92·
        4 days ago

        The access to fresher ingredients and healthier food cannot be understated. Food is so much more processed in the US, even if you’re mainly cooking at home. Even the “ingredients” you buy at grocery stores are more processed.

        • SupraMario@lemmy.world
          11·
          3 days ago

          That’s not making people fat. People are fat because they eat to much and have sedentary lifestyles. Watch secret eaters on YT, it’s from the UK, but demonstrates how much snacking and sitting most people do.

          • Echolynx@lemmy.zipEnglish
            22·
            3 days ago

            Yes, being sedentary hurts you. My point wasn’t about weight loss, just that the quality of ingredients and food in Europe is leagues ahead of the US. It is much worse for you nutritionally to eat refined, processed grains than it is to eat whole grains. Not to mention the amount of fresh produce…

  • rumba@lemmy.zipEnglish
    303·
    3 days ago

    I REALLY wish they would have went to Five Guys.

    Guy 3/5: fills 32 ounce cup with fresh hot, salt slathered fries. Drops cup in a large bag. Takes another full scoop of the fries and throws them in the bag. Easily 4-5 potatoes worth.

    The cup of fries should be 1300 calories, they easily put twice as many in. That’s a daily food intake worth of calories for the side alone.

  • XTL@sopuli.xyz
    69·
    4 days ago

    I’ll have two number 9s, a number 9 large, a number 6 with extra dip, a number 7, two number 45s, one with cheese, and a large soda.