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People weren’t happy in the 90s they were angry and the music reflected that
Rebellious, anti-materialist, anti-machine
But I wouldn’t say we were unhappy on a personal level
Exactly. I’m quite happy, and I also like rebellious, anti-machine music. I still listen to Rage Against the Machine, and I’m in a pretty stable life situation, not a minority, etc. I just really don’t like people who abuse authority, and I don’t see that changing regardless of how happy I am.
now they’re nostalgic about unhappiness 😂😡
Well I got up feeling soo down…
We got down with the sickness.
Sample bias. The unhealthy and depressed people were less likely to be out being active and having fun.
The hits from Limp Biscuit stopped coming and the world fell into an ethical depression.
They must have gotten upset about people always spelling their name wrong
The skinny people at the concert from 25 years ago are now are now 45+ years old.
That’s what happened.
Hey! I’m only 44!
Well I can’t just call you ‘man’?
Well, you could say Dennis.
I didn’t know you were called Dennis!?
Well, you didn’t bother to find out, did you?
I did say sorry about the `old woman,’ but from the behind you looked–
I want at that concert but I was doing a lot more acid, mdma and dancing all weekend.
Not so much these days!
Everyone got fat and unhappy? I dunno
Sounds like they aged up.
Age, lack of exercise, stress… I can go on
When I went to my first Riot Fest I looked around and was like, “Damn, did they shut down the punk rock retirement home?”
Then I realized I had just turned 31 and couldn’t trust myself any more.
Note the lack of drinking water and sanitary facilities with the crowd that size and become a wizard that predicts the future now past.
The fact OP is calling these people “skinny” is terrifying
Normal size is now skinny.
The fat girls were on the ground being raped :(
Don’t romanticize the 90s.
I was there Gandalf. I was there 3000 years ago…
True, when I see a modern concert recording, all I see are sad and sobbing people, hating that they are at a concert
Do you see people behind smartphones they’re holding??
The phone thing is so ridiculous. Stay at home and watch someone else’s video at that point. The compulsion to document everything that happens to yourself is something I just don’t get.
Idk, it was a thing in the early 2000s as well. I remember my friends sharing flip-phone quality videos with me of concerts they went to, so sharing experiences via digital recording isn’t anything new.
I also think it’s dumb, but it’s not particularly new.
Oh Jesus Christ if I have to ever see someone’s fireworks pics ever again please use this pillow to suffocate me. Also individuals’ moon shots. Just please no.
Phones should capture memories, and they should be shared with those who have the same memories. If I want to watch a video of fireworks or nature, there are so many higher quality options available.
Thats a really good point about sharing them with people who were part of them.
This is probably my biggest boomer opinion. People need to know that i was here, people need to know how much fun i’m having. If people don’t know how amazing my life is, what’s even the point of going out?
My tinfoil opinion is because of social media traveling is now everyone’s favourite hobby. Tinder is just full of women who use the planet as a background to take their picture in front of.
When i was little, the worst part about other people’s holidays was that there was a chance that they invited you to their homes to watch their boring dia shows of their vacation. Now it’s almost impossible to not look at someone’s vacation
My wife’s father does this every vacation, this year the presentation took over an hour. Mans got a giant ego for sure.
Bonus though, when he went to share it he accidentally pulled up his cialis receipt in his email for his daughter and I to see!
What smartphones are you seeing exactly? This looks like a Limp Bizkit set with some professional photographers right up the front. Nobody had smartphones at the time and even if you pulled one out there you’d have lost it in the pit.
Can confirm. Everyone hate to be in front of Tailor Swift. They all yell at her at one point.
and when she comes out they all scream in pure terror. It must be horrible
Man I miss when concerts and events weren’t just for rich kids and people with disposable incomes. I remember going to see Metallica, $40 mid tier tickets. I saw AC DC for about the same. Rob zombie with Ozzy Osbourne. I even saw a WrestleMania for like $80 and that was a lot then for great seats.
Now concert tickets for Metallica are running $400-500 mid tier each. Even smaller bands and events are more than what a premium event used to cost. The development League hockey games cost more than the NHL games used to. Working class people have been priced out.
I paid $3.50 to see a band a few months. Granted, I got a discount but the tickets were about $25 regular.
One of my family members paid something like 60 € to see Michael Jackson in the 90s. I still remember how back then, I thought “what an outrageous price tag.”
I paid $25 to listen to Power Trip inside of someone’s house.
It was one of the best and insane concerts I ever went to.
Metallica? I dunno, man. Maybe? Thing is, they, like Pink Floyd, have bucket-list status.
If you’re gonna see them before you die, you’re gonna pay for it. They know they’re established, influential, and huge, and they can basically charge whatever they want.
Still, tho. I’d rather pay $30 to go see The Melvins and get my face melted off by Buzz and his two drummers.
Now concert tickets for Metallica are running $400-500 mid tier each.
😲
And here I thought 80 EUR for GNR was too much.
Let’s be real, GNR aren’t really in their prime…
Neither is Metallica. That’s not how this works, isn’t it? People come because they know the band name, remember good old songs, and so on.
GNR doesn’t have any concerts right now, so I can only use this data: https://www.rateyourseats.com/tickets/guns-n-roses
The average ticket price for all shows was $365
That’s still much more expensive than 80 EUR (which includes taxes).
I suppose you have a point. ACDC just finished a tour and it was also sold out. I just didn’t think GNR were ever that big in the first place but I’m not the target market
I saw AC/DC twice for about 60 bucks each and though it was craaaazy expensive, because most shows i went to were like 5-10 bucks. I’m not even a big AC fan, i just thought back then that it’s probably the last opportunity to see them. They played with the offspring which i’m also not crazy about, but now that would ve an insane lineup for that kind of money.
Only like 10 or 15 years later there was a similar opportunity with iron maiden i think. I asked a friend to get tickets, but then it was already that if you didn’t buy them the millisecond they went on sale, they were bought up by bots.
In my area at least, affordable concert tickets are still a thing. I see something like $30-60 for most acts, provided they’re not mega-popular like Metallica or Taylor Swift. If we look at inflation vs, say, 1995, we should expect things to cost about twice as much, and that seems to pretty much right (e.g. a $20 ticket in 1995 would be a little over $40 today). I went to a Dashboard Confessional concert in the early 2000s, and I think it was something like $40, so today I’d expect that to be $80. I see Dropkick Murphy’s tickets (I think similar popularity?) for something like $60-70, which is about right. And before you get into income discussions, wages have been beating inflation (this graph is from COVID, longer term has a similar trend), with the main exception being the year and a half or so of massive inflation.
So I don’t think tickets have necessarily gotten more expensive relative to inflation, they’ve always been kind of expensive. What does seem to have changed is the price ceiling for events seem to have gone up substantially. I don’t think I had ever seen single-ticket prices go as high as current Taylor Swift tickets go for, so it seems people are more willing to pay a premium than they were before.
I get 15-20 dollar tickets to concerts by bands I love fairly often, personally. It definitely depends a bit what kind of music you’re in to, and probably what part of the country you live in, but cheap concerts are still out there.
Did you notice they mentioned pretty huge bands that bring in tens of thousands of people? Yeah, these groups don’t do shows where the tickets are 15-20$, but what’s fucked up is that they did back in the 90s when they pulled in even bigger crowds. So what has changed for their tickets to be 10x (or more) as expensive as 30 years ago? Ticketmaster.
15-20$ in my area might get you symphony type concerts, but not one of their good ones. I could also pay the cover at a bar that has a live band. The smallest venues near me are still 50+ per ticket.
I could also pay the cover at a bar that has a live band.
I think the disconnect here is to me and the guy you’re replying to, that’s still a show/concert/whatever you wanna call it, but since a band like Julie isn’t as big as Metallica, they play the venues metallica used to play in '84, while Metallica is an arena act now. A concert doesn’t have to be in a theater or arena, that “cover” is the ticket price. Like see this show here at The Middle East downstairs in Cambridge MA, https://www.mideastoffers.com/tm-event/czarface-ocelot/ you’re not just paying $30 to get in, you’re paying $30 for an advanced ticked to see Czarface (who fucking rules btw), $35 day of show.
Unless you mean some shitty cover band nobody knows the name of in a bar nobody wants them in, in that case my mistake, bars around here don’t charge a cover for that they basically use it to beg for customers. I hate it, I wanted to drink with my friends and talk not “SURPRISE! Bad Barenaked ladies and Eve6 covers for 4 hours!”
You know what, you have a good point, all the bars around me I looked at don’t charge a cover. Theres probably some decent bands in the downtown area near me that are up and coming but my city is no Nashville.
You might be surprised! There’s really good local bands in just about every city (even small ones) depending on your music tastes and even the small bands tour! Sometimes I’ll just go to the venue’s site (like The Middle East) and look at their calendar, and if they have a band that sparks my interest I’ve never heard of I’ll listen to a song, if I like it I’ll go (if I can).
While Nashville was at it’s peak you also had Knoxville for the outlaw stuff and Buck Owens was pioneering the Bakersfield sound in CA, and that’s just country, Nashville ain’t the only town that knows how to strum a guitar! Lol
Pro Tip: A vacation + going to a concert there may be cheaper depending on the band.
Just basic supply/demand… plus a little bit of elasticity and profit max.
Or Ticketmaster monopoly.
Yeah, im the only supplier.
Supply and demand.
I think revenues also shifted from selling music to using cheap music to sell concerts.
You mean pretty much free music.
Actually a good point.
This is fred durst at Woodstock 99. Decidedly everyone there was not happy, and after this set everyone was less happy . Has to do with 90s generation being not happy generally.
There were def fatties back then too. But time has progressed and things have only got worse.
This green text is false
Lol i was fat as fuck 25 years ago
And I had horrific, untreated anxiety and depression. Fun!
Anecdotal
