Edit: It will never cease to make me laugh that I get more genuinely serious discussion comments on my meme posts in /c/Memes than anywhere else. I’m not hating, I love it.
Edit 2: Chicago-Style deep dish pizza isn’t pizza go fuck yourself
I come from a country where burgers get wider, not taller.
which one?
I disagree with the glasses part as counterargument. Pizzas are sold by diameter in places that offer large and small - some even do medium. I also believe it would be nicer to have wider burgers instead of taller
Counterpoint - pizzas are sold by diameter, but pretty much everyone I know underestimates how diameter corresponds to actual pizza size and think a 16" pizza is twice as big as an 8" pizza instead of four times as big, which it actually is. Meanwhile, a burger patty that is twice as big as another one is actually twice as tall, while one that is wider is only about ~41% wider. Vertical dimension is more intuitive for the overall mass difference.
Just sell by patty weight.
Until you start selling a 1/3 lb burger to outcompete the 1/4 lb burger, but people are “4 is more than 3!” so your marketing fails…
Them later advertising it as 3/9ths is pretty funny though.
“The one on the right is better because the thingy is lifting it higher and the arrow is pointing to it!” – idiots, probably
Could just switch to grams. Selling by fraction is the problem not by weight itself.
I say this as an American, but these are Americans confused by the concept of fractions. Using grams would likely terrify them more.
Just call it 100 freedom units and everyone will love it.
And a 1/4lb is 4 oz, which sounds too small (compared to 8-10oz steaks that some people consume). So a 5.33 or even 5.5 oz burger doesn’t sound much bigger.
Yeah most people would think 4 is more than 3! while 3! is actually 50% more than 4.
But a third is less than a quarter!
Um… unfortunately, that doesn’t work, either. ::facepalm::
Well obviously more slices = more pizza.
Who would even eat the taller pizza? I’d find it disgusting. I’m not saying anything about the burger.
You have just insulted everyone in Chicago.
I’ll do it, Chicago has terrible taste in food. Deep dish is preposterous, Malort is an abomination, and despite how you feel about ketchup, relish should not look like the ooze that creates ninja turtles.
Deep dish is delicious. Lasagna is delicious. Baked ziti is delicious. Calzones are delicious.
Look, you can’t go wrong with tomato sauce, cheese, dough, and optional meat. It’s all delicious, and playing around with different ratios is still great.
on that note: stromboli is def delicious
Thank you. A deep dish pizza isn’t a pizza. It’s, at best, a fucking stew.
It’s a fucking casserole.
I recorded this rant because I’m bored. I fuckin hate deep dish and NY style pizza.
I don’t know what kind of culinary trauma Chicago is working through but their pizza isn’t pizza, it’s a STEW, or at best a stew with ambitions. It’s a stew with a gluten lid. I need a ladle, not a fork. I have to displace sauce like I’m fording the fucking Oregon Trail just to find the crust. It’s lasagna that forgot it was Italian. It’s soup gaslit into thinking it can achieve something. You don’t eat that shit you survive it. You don’t chew it, you contemplate your entire life while shoveling it in and wondering how something with so much molten cheese could still feel emotionally cold.
I’m in agreement with Jon when it comes to Deep-Dish pizza and how it isn’t a pizza but a tomato-laden crime scene in a cast-iron pan. But he comes in so hot and screaming like he’s right about how real pizza folds. No. No Jon. I ain’t ever going to trust a fucking dude from New Jersey when it comes to pizza. That’s just New York opinions with worse parking. It’s like if Staten Island got a podcast and decided it was a food critic. These are people who look at a strip mall and say “This is where I want my Italian food experience to begin.” You ever seen a pizza joint from Jersey? Half of them double as laundromats or vape shops. They serve slices so thin you could laminate one and use it as a fucking bookmark. Their idea of crust is “whatever’s left after sadness finishes baking.” You pick up a slice and it’ll collapse faster than their economy would if you banned tanning beds.
Fucking Jon motherfucking goddamn Stewart out here talking about how reall pizza fooooolds. Oh. Does it? DOES IT JON? Real pizza folds? My money folds (jiggle jiggle). My spine folds after sleeping the wrong way. My dreams fold under the pressure of existence. That doesn’t make thme LUNCH. But of course he would love this goddamn monstrosity called ‘New York Style Pizza’. You would too if you grew up being told that thin floppy bread covered in oily regret was pizza. It isn’t pizza. It’s barely a suggestion of pizza. It’s whispering the concpet of mozzarella over a saltine while screaming about the Jets.
I love Jon. I really do but I wish he would stick to tearing down Fox News and republicans because when he says NY Pizza is the real deal all I hear is “I enjoy food that is as thin, undercooked and as lacking in substance as a conservative argument.” Stay with eviscerating fascists and not defending pizza that looks like it needs an intervention and a fuckin’ towel.
I make no comment about the merit of your argument either way, but hot damn you love to see the passion!
I’m a big fan of Detroit style. And I’m aware it’s basically focaccia bread with pizza toppings on it.
You ever seen a pizza joint from Jersey? Half of them double as laundromats or vape shops.
I’ve been getting pizza from NJ for ~45 years. I have never seen this crossover.
Folded pizza is real, and it’s delicious.
This was the most enjoyable read I’ve had since I joined Lemmy! Took me back to reddit just around the Digg-exodus era. Bravo!
I don’t agree with your tastes in food, but I agree, fuck New Jersey.
It’s great to have you back!
You bitch about Chicago Pizza? Fucking CHICAGO?!?
Let me introduce you to the abomination I’m trying to eliminate: Quad Cities Pizza
They are called TOPPINGS. toppings, not middleings, for the love of all things just and right.
I loved the Chicago bit!!! Absolutely hilarious! If new york pizza isnt real pizza what is real pizza in your opinion?
A casserole
For anyone who is not from Chicago, Malort is a bitter liquor that tastes like you poured anise through a filter of mud and used motor oil.
It tastes like what male cat pee smells like.
Though to be fair, I don’t think Chicago people like it either and only buy it because it’s terrible
From what I understand it’s what you drink at the family reunion once you run out of cheap beer and need to forget how bad Chicago is.
Malort tastes like a practical joke
This guy gets it. It’s fascinating being judged on what one puts on a hotdog by the dyed relish gang.
Unsurprising from the same people who light train tracks on fire and lean out on glass 400 stories in the air for a thrill.
Chicago bar pizza is a national treasure though
Okay, but to be fair, while it is delicious, it also is not “pizza” (insert bit from Jon Stewart:-).
ITS A CASSEROLE!
Gaba gool!:-P
Deep pan pizza is pretty good.
Lol you know nothing about pizza. There’s pizza al trancio, pizza al tegamino, generic pizza alta, pizza doppia pasta (double dough), so on…
Source: Italian
Well that only works because pizza is a 2 dimensional food
Buns and patties would have to come in two different sizes for wide and regular burgers, and it’s probably more economical for restaurants to make them all in one standard size.
Actually worked in a fast food place, and we had three sizes iirc. Patties and Buns.
The issue is toppings still have to go up. It’s not like you can do a burger with the works and have zones of flavor. “Ooh this was the lettuce bite! I hope I get the pickle next!”
So the more you put on your burger the taller it gets.
There’s also been an upsetting trend of smash burgers taking over every fucking restaurant. Ridiculously wide and flat patties that have a lot of flavor but it feels like you’re eating a fried piece of cheese rather than a good burger.
Don’t get me wrong, I do enjoy a good smash burger. It definitely has it’s place. I used to make them but found that just making a chopped cheese was easier and honestly a little better.
But a fat, juicy, pink all the way through and almost red in the middle burger that squirts when you bite it will always be the king of my grill. And generally if I’m going to go get a burger somewhere, that’s what I’m actually craving. This burgers must be taller. If you make that kind of patty too wide you either need to add a binder to keep it together, which kinda ruins the texture, or you’ll need a really wide spatula to flip it and honestly some of them are still going to fall apart on you. Just the nature of the beast.
There’s also been an upsetting trend of smash burgers taking over every fucking restaurant. Ridiculously wide and flat patties that have a lot of flavor but it feels like you’re eating a fried piece of cheese rather than a good burger.
If your smash burger is thin then they’re not doing it right
Been smash cooking burgers since I was 8 (fuck me 21 years?! MY BURGER COOKING CAN DRINK?!) and never had a thin burger as a result
A burger should have bun, meat, cheese, dressing and maybe bacon…Everything else is a side dish that has no business inside the burger.
Hers a wild idea: What if the restaurant made their own food, shaped exactly how they wanted it, instead of buying premade buns and patties?
It’s a question of wage costs and consistency. Patties are easy enough but time consuming. Baking a good burger bun is a pretty specific skill as well as time consuming, and requires a lot of space and a good oven.
Unless you’ve got customers happy to pay $40 for your artisan crafted burgers I don’t think it’d work.
square 🔲 ?
Nah. If you put two plates in front of me and one had a regular burger on it and the other had a burger that was as wide as the plate itself, I’d pick the one that most accurately reflects how much I hate myself at that moment.
Schlotzky’s proved this out decades ago.
I’d eat em both
The A&W thing is more about Americans sucking ass at math than the difference between a wider or taller burger.
They had a 1/3lb burger and dipshits thought the 1/4lb was bigger because they don’t understand fractions.
A 1/2 lb is bigger than 1/3 lb; what are you on? Did you mis-state something?
They said 1/3 > 1/4, you misread the comment
They edited it and fixed it now, just didn’t state why they edited.
Oh no the edit police for a typo lmao
I was explaining why my comment wasn’t incorrect, it’s not like I took offense to anything. I didn’t expand on anything other than clarifying to the person who obviously didn’t see the original post. Go fuck yourself.
So angry for no reason lmao. Chill put brudda i was just having some fun lol it aint that serious
No dude you’re just kinda being a dick and not really understanding the situation
1/4lb’er*
Royale with cheese
This is a dumb response. Wider is easier to fit in your mouth and doesnt fall apart. Taller is just a mess and challenge to eat
TLDR: it’s not a volume issue, its a distribution
That is the point of the meme.
It’s a reference to the third-pound burger, and how consumers thought 1/3 was less than 1/4.
I bet the price increase was more than 1/12, though.
Exactly. Where I used to work there was a greasy cafe type place around the corner and the baps got wider the more stuff you ordered. If you ordered the Full Monty the burger bap was wider than my head. MY HEAD.
You’re damn right I would order it every time I went in. It was glorious…and very unhealthy, but also glorious.
A&W tried something like this. Sold a 1/3 pound burger because its bigger than the popular Quarter Pounder sold by its competition, larger than a Whopper even. It undersold and when people were asked why; it turns out people think 1/3 is less than 1/4. By the numbers, here.
Thus the title <3
Ya, made me member. Wasnt sure if the story was well known enough.
Oh I wasn’t saying that like I was complaining. Was saying that like to add onto your comment for those confused by the title. Sorry if it came off bitchy.
No, no. I added context, a comment and community to a silly meme. I love you
Love you too buddy <3
Not on the mouth, i cant stand it.
Tbf any variation of “one third of a pound” is a shit name, so all this proves is that they failed to market the product.
The real answer is likely that extra wide buns are not available from suppliers, and nowhere bakes their own bread these days. For the chains that have their own off-site bakeries and supply chains, the majority of consumers probably don’t want a much bigger burger, and those that do have big enough mouths to fit extra tall burgers, or buy 2 burgers which are easier to eat. I know if I’m extra hungry I’ll grab 2 cheeseburgers, but most of the time 1 plus the mandatory chips is enough childhood nostalgia junk for me. I wouldn’t care about a 50% wider cheeseburger.
They’re likely all getting their buns (and everything else) from Sysco anyways, so I can’t imagine different sized buns would be that hard to source.
Murica!
To be fair, I can’t think of a good name for a 3rd of a pound. “Thrice Slice” looks good, but is cumbersome to pronounce, and it sounds like a pizza.
Its amazing what a defunded education system can produce honestly.
Ok I’ve always hated this “advertising study”. A&W is a small fish in a big pond. Expecting their shitty third pounder to outsell a core McDonalds menu item in its prime is a Herculean task. Americans do suck at math but maybe your burger sucked a bit more.
Well, yes, but also McDonald’s did it to themselves too. About 20 years ago when I worked there (holy shit I just realized it was 20 years ago), they had the Angus 1/3 pounders. They flopped hard. Exact same reasoning, both from their corporate offices and me anecdotally, people are fucking stupid. They really thought they were getting ripped off because the quarter pounder was more meat than the 1/3 pound Angus burger according to them. I, tiny teenage me tried explaining it to them, to no avail. Fucking morons.
You want to lose hope for the human race, work in a service industry
Tbf mcds has had a lot of menu items flop because, well, because of being bad at food.
See youve got it! There is some import to this, AW was never gonna pull Mcd and Bk #’s but the fact is that their burger undersold at their restaurants and this is the reason they eventually found. Not poor locations, which they were, not poor advertising, which was dismal. AW was well known for burgers and ice cream and may have had a chance if it wasnt run by clown college graduates.
Should have sold a 1/5 pound burger then lol
Big burgers should just be two burgers
Can we use a hotdogs to make a bridge between the two hamburger castles?
You may
What have you done? What have you permitted?
But wider = more taste surface. See smash burgers. Taller is just… more burger to toppings ratio. Diminishing returns, imo.
So the ideal burger is basically the size and shape of a pancake.
A quesadilla.
I went into Applebee’s the other day and saw a quesadilla burger on the menu… I didn’t get it because I didn’t want a burger, but it did look really good.
Smashburgers are about hijaking the Maillard reaction. Thinner meat means more browning.
Until it ends up the thickness of a piece of paper like the Whopper.
Unless taller adds additional burgers to the burger. Got this place in my town, they serve their burgers with 2 150g patties. Great stuff!
In my boyfriend’s hometown they used to have this restaurant that served this thing called a hubcap burger
And it was indeed, wide enough to be the hubcap of a car, while being basically flat.
I mean… I’m hungry…
Where’s the address?
Southern Brazil.
Fuck
Epic road trip time, let’s do this
Harold and Kumar go to Florianópolis.
Well I’m on an island in the ocean in Canada and with no car. You coming to pick me up?
Alternatively, I’ve had something similar on holiday in South Tyrol.
There was a Hubcap Grill in Houston that had the best burger in a city that has a lot of great burgers.
They say they named it that because of a method of cooking a burger on a skillet, where you place a metal plate over the beef as it cooks to reduce splattering. The joke was that the burgers were so big that they needed to use a hubcap instead of a plate. And it was pretty close to true. Those burgers were massive and incredible.
They still have a few locations, including one in Hobby airport. But the original, which was a hole in the wall in downtown Houston, was the best.
I think wider is better so you don’t have to unhinge your jaw like a snake to eat it.
I mean it worked for subway. Until they started skimping
Their success came from it being specifically longer. It’s much harder to visualise a bigger surface area, like how a 10 inch pizza is bigger than two 7 inch pizzas. Subway on the other hand only stretches it in one axis, so the number goes up faster.
I don’t want long burgers, although I don’t know why. Big fan of the circle.
Roy’s once had the bodacious bacon cheeseburger. It was pretty lit.
It was 1/3 of a pound and elongated.
The form factor is not bad it’s like the original chicken sandwich from Burger King.
It’s easy, just call it something different, like a chopped cheese.
Some poboy shops here sell a long burger. My gym buddy used to regularly eat the 8 patty footlong double. Must have been a pound of meat on it, never mind the cheese and other toppings.
Size factors are tricky and the issue with fractional weights. I say we make wider Burger circles and number then in onces in the USA and grammes in the rest of the world. I want my 200 Burger and my 400 Burger wide.
you mean the 11" footlong?
Maybe it was cold
cold cut?
AKA people are idiots.
Never forget that the 1/3 pounder failed because people were too dumb to realize that 1/3 is bigger than 1/4…
Would never have happened if 'murica used metrics lol
We’d have the 200 gram’er or whatever a quarter of a pound is in grams
In Germany, we have 125g patties. But a pound is slang for 500g and does not equate to an imperial pound.
Like 115 grams. A pound is 454g, a quarter of that is 113.5g, which would probably be rounded up.
They’d go from a Royale with cheese to an Impérial with cheese.
Never looked at metric as (also) accommodating idiots, but I guess you’re right.
well they’re already wider.
Bad labeling, they should have called it the 150. People will assume that means 50% more, which is kinda close. For any legal matter they can say it refers to 150 grams, which is dead accurate.
Right up until the point that someone complains that grams are metric and not American, calling for a boycott. It makes my head hurt.
They should’ve made a fifth-pounder and sold it for more.
The vast majority of people do not understand fractions. Even math teachers do not understand fractions. I quiver in horror every time a student says the words “cross multiply” because I am about to see some gruesome debasement of mathematics.
I had to remind myself exactly what the point of cross multiplying is.
…it’s essentially just a label given to a specific set of algebraic operations. That it even has a name seems stupid to me. We shouldn’t focus on memorizing specific cases like this when understanding why it works will get you there just as quickly. Heck in the case of cross multiplying, I think it works against the interests of the students’ learning. It’s a shortcut that hides the fact that you’re multiplying both sides by both denominators, when “do the same thing on both sides of the equals sign” is algebra 101.
Exactly. The problem is that they will also start “cross multiplying” any time they see a fraction. “Okay, so what do I need to do if I want to add 3/4 + 1/3?” And then they’ll say “cross multiply”?
Just say - “hey, the way to get rid of the denominators is to multiply everything by the LCD.” Then it works in all cases. No weird “one trick” that doesn’t really teach them anything.
(But, where I live - the people teaching math don’t understand math lol.)
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A 1995 experiment found that 50% of undergraduate males and 25% of females performed “very well” on the task and 20% of males and 35% of females performed “poorly”.
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AKA Volumes are unintuitive. Always get your martinis filled to the brim. https://youtu.be/Mkn3PzdaByY
This isn’t volumes though, it’s basically asking if you’ve ever experienced a liquid affected by gravity. And somehow adults are failing this.
It’s not a comparison of size, it’s just the formatting of the sandwich to fit better with the way the human jaw is made… What a dumb argument
Food for thought: a sufficiently tall and narrow burger ain’t a burger anymore, when it’s roughly spherical rather than roughly cylindrical it’s also not a burger and if it’s large and brick-like it’s yet something else.
spoiler
Cevapcici Kofta; Meatball; Meatloaf.
So burger is a geometrically bound dish definition.
Meatloaf and meatballs have things like egg and breadcrumbs mixed in, and don’t tend to come on buns.
People who put such things in their hamburger patties are eating meatloaf sandwiches, not hamburgers.
Hah! Joke’s on you: you haven’t seen my cooking!
a sufficiently tall and narrow burger ain’t a burger anymore
It’s a hotdog.
