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  • For the working class it was high inflation [i.e. their declining standard of living]

    For the suburban voters it was the felt sense that we have porous borders and that our tax dollars were being used to support non-citizen [i.e. not getting enough support themselves and feeling the injustice of it]

    These are just different misinterpretations of the same underlying problem. What both groups are experiencing is a feeling of economic instability and being left behind while the rich get richer. But Americans have been so heavily propagandized to for decades that we don’t have the political vocabulary to describe the real solution (at least not without using swear words like “s*****ism”), so we grope for some related issue to provide framing. And, of course, very often what we find is some scapegoat the ruling class’ propaganda has ‘helpfully’ provided to us in order to deflect their blame.







  • grue@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldLiberalism vs. Leftism
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    Although liberalism and libertarianism share some important characteristics (strong emphasis on equality before the law and civil rights), they’re not the same thing.

    Notably, libertarianism can be left-wing in a way that liberalism cannot (e.g. anarcho-syndicalism, anarcho-communism, green politics, etc.). Some left-libertarians even reject the concept of private property entirely.

    Liberalism doesn’t completely overlap with right libertarianism, either. Liberals are more willing to accept some authoritarian ideas, such as e.g. having a military to protect trade.




  • grue@lemmy.worldOPtoPolitical Memes@lemmy.worldLiberalism vs. Leftism
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    From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-wing_politics:

    Left-wing politics describes the range of political ideologies that support and seek to achieve social equality and egalitarianism, often in opposition to social hierarchy as a whole or certain social hierarchies.

    In modern politics, the term Left typically applies to ideologies and movements to the left of classical liberalism, supporting some degree of democracy in the economic sphere. Today, ideologies such as social liberalism and social democracy are considered to be centre-left, while the Left is typically reserved for movements more critical of capitalism, including the labour movement, socialism, anarchism, communism, Marxism and syndicalism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

    Liberalism is a political and moral philosophy based on the rights of the individual, liberty, consent of the governed, political equality, right to private property and equality before the law. Liberals espouse various and often mutually warring views depending on their understanding of these principles but generally support private property, market economies, individual rights (including civil rights and human rights), liberal democracy, secularism, rule of law, economic and political freedom, freedom of speech, freedom of the press, freedom of assembly, and freedom of religion.

    (Emphasis added)

    Basically, liberals care more about equality of opportunity, while leftists care more about equality of outcome. (And, of course, conservatives actively oppose equality and promote hierarchy.)

    On a “political compass,” leftism is the left half (obviously). Liberalism is a fuzzy blob centered somewhere below and right of center, but big enough to extend at least a little ways into the other quadrants because of how many different kinds of “liberalism” there are.


  • How do you interpret all that if not that the 2nd amendment exists to overthrow/incite war with a tyrranical government?

    It does exist to do that. To make it possible. But you kept arguing that it existed to make it “a legally protected right,” which is a different thing.

    How many times do I have to explain to you that “possible” and “legal” are not equivalent before you finally get it?