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    God made sure only Charlie Kirk was killed. It’s as if God smote Charlie in the middle of a crowd, in the middle of saying hate, and spared the onlookers.

    Yeah, I don’t think that’s a good thing for fans of Charlie.

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    The doctor added that Kirk’s “bone was so healthy and the density was so so impressive that he’s like the man of steel. It should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too.”

    Do people really believe these fairy tales? It’s the same absurd rhetoric they use regarding Trump. Reminds me of the rhetoric North Korea uses about Kim Jong Un

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      I’ve been calling MAGA a mental illness for a decade. Everything they have done, and continue to do, indicates severe logical corruption in every sense of the word, and it’s transmissible through propaganda.

      That’s why the USA is cooked, for generations, and is damn near guaranteed to experience civil war &/or Christian fascist dictatorship before anything gets better. There’s no coming back from a mental illness epidemic affecting a double digit percentage of the population.

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        Covid seemed like it was going to be a quick filter, but I always forget how idiot sandwiches like to impress their idiocy forcefully upon others

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      I think they’re just fucking stupid.

      Not uneducated people with critical thinking skills.

      Just actually, really, super fucking dumb. There is no nuance to them. Everything is black and white and only happens one way. Life is straight forward, and its hell the whole time. That’s it. That’s the end.

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        Oh uh. My comment has a “these” (pronoun) without a specific thing its tied to. I did mean trump voters in general but moreso the people who are outwardly part of it. Fox news. The cabinet. Etc.

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          Ah yeah, I definitely narrowed your comment to just apply to the voting base, even though the crazy ass headline in question is being perpetuated by the grifters.

          Thats mah B!

          I do agree though, those who are feeding the voters are insane/unreasonable and evil. And I think they know that their base is dumb enough to accept their grifting “words of wisdom.”

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      The media and reporters? I know. Since forever they have been this way. Lunatics all of them

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    Obviously the guy was so full of hardened shit that the bullet just couldn’t find its way out.

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    Calling a person that literally got a hole shot through them a “man of steel” has to be the most perfect microcosm of Fox’s entire reporting style, lmao.

    “Compelling evidence of XYZ actually PROOF of Not-XYZ upon closer inspection”

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    they are going to try and make him a fuckin Saint? I wonder which white nationalist religious wacko will try to have him canonized …

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      I saw some Republicans in Congress were calling him the 13th disciple of Jesus. There’s definitely an attempt to infuse religion into the mythology being constructed around him.

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        no and yes. I think the Christians that do it use the same rules for recognition but don’t require the Pope’s declaration

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          I can’t imagine most protestant denominations have the organizational and bureaucratic capacity for catholic sanctification. It looks like Anglicans kept the pre split saints and then created a new category of heroes and they seem to do their own thing for it. That’s the most similar protestant denomination to catholicism.

          It’s really hard to imagine a scenario where the baptists are organizing enough to do a trial where evidence for and against sainthood are presented. Also the concept of saints is entirely Tradition so it violates sola scriptura

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        He was an evangelical christian, and was very much against the previous pope. He called him a marxist, a heretic, etc.

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      He saw the people before him were thirsty and so He performed the miracle of becoming a fountain. Truly inspiring.

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    There was no one behind him and the shooter took one shot, how would someone else have been killed?

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            The shooter who went to a Charlie Kirk event, took one clean shot at Charlie Kirk, saw Charlie Kirk go sideways and left the scene? I wonder what their motive could have been, maybe they would have shot someone else if Charlie Kirk hadn’t been there to bravely catch that bullet.

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            motif

            I’m sure the artist had quite the distinctively well-timed, precise, strikingly vibrant motif throughout their oeuvre. It drew dramatic reactions from all critics.

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      Charlie Kirk was filled with a huge amount of methane under pressure. You could hear it when he opened his mouth.

      Luckily everyone in the crowd could smell it once he popped a leak and high tailed it out of there.

      The crowd dodged a bullet…

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    I bet the bullet hit his spine. Hence the immediately floppy dead. As opposed to being due to the blood loss.

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      Yeah to me it looked like he had a fencing response, which can accompany head/spine injuries. Wouldn’t be surprised if the bullet hit his upper spine or ricocheted into the base of his skull or something.

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        The hydrostatic shock likely would have pulverized his brain stem on a hit like that. It wouldn’t have to direct hit the spine.

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      That would make some sense, but I’m doubtful about the bullet caliber. I’ve seen what 30-06 does to large game, and it very rarely stops even when hitting bone. Especially if he was shot with a hunting round (which are designed to flare out and dump energy) we would have seen a truly massive exit wound.

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      That caliber bullet does not care about his spine. Honestly his head should have exploded.

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      I noticed his head went in the same direction the bullet entered, you would think his head would go away from where the bullet entered so maybe it did hit the spine and cause the head to push forward.

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        This is an extremely famous phenomenon in ballistics, popularized by the JFK assasination. Penn and Teller even did a breakdown of why this happens at one point. It’s pretty interesting to look into!

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          That doesn’t have the casing. Rifle bullets are usually pretty long.

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              It doesn’t have any of the shape a casing has. There’d be a flared base, for example. This doesn’t have that. It is a painting though, not a picture, and the colors aren’t accurate. The shape is consistent with no casing though, so I’m betting that the color is just not quite perfect.

              Edit: This is what a bullet+casing looks like. The shape is totally different.

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                Note the bullet to casing proportions are the same as the image, including the inset of the casing that narrows to the actual bullet.

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                  OK, I don’t understand what’s going on here. It plainly is not. Seriously. Compare them side-by-side.

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    A guy who knows him said a doctor said he had a bulletproof neck? And this is national-level news to publish?

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    I think it’s much more likely that the governmnet lied about the caliber of the bullet than this guy’s neck stopped a 30-06.

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      They lied, unless the bullet decided to magically turn left and become a smaller caliber then the official line is bogus.

      It is probably one of those multiple shooters situations with a patsy that may even believe they did it.

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    uhh…I have the video. That thing absolutely came out the other side…explosively.

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      He was also 1,000% not shot from the front. It’s fucking insane that they’re claiming this in light of so many videos. The exit wound was downward from the left side of his neck, along with all his blood. Did it take a 90+ degree turn? Why didn’t we see it go in from the front? Feel like I’m taking crazy pills.

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        Do you have any relevant experience? Maybe your guesses about how things should work are simply wrong, and that’s causing your problems.

        Watch what happens when a bullet is fired through ballistic gel. It’s not some simple thing where a hard thing goes in one side and stuff comes out the other side.

        Why didn’t we see it go in from the front? A rifle bullet travels at hundreds of metres per second. It’s not easy to see it while it is in motion unless you’re using a slow motion camera.

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        The wound you saw was the entry wound. Blood gushing from the entry wound is very common. According to a relative who is a forensic pathologist.

        There isn’t any forensic doubt on how he was shot. The shooter was in front of him. How we are expecting gun shots and blood splatter patterns to behave is rather misinformed by movies and games.

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          There was immediate blood splatter on the shirt by the wound in his neck when you watch it frame by frame. It does not appear this is an entry wound like you are claiming.

          This was also not the caliber they claimed. He was shot from the right side with a smaller caliber bullet.

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              I watched it from several angles already. You obviously have not so I am not sure why you feel the need to chime in. You are probably just trying to push a narrative (aka propaganda).