• RampageDon@lemmy.world
    1172·
    9 months ago

    Was that midterms? I know she doesn’t get political, but I think she was just telling her fans to make sure they go out and vote. More voters scares certain political parties. That’s my best guess anyway.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@literature.cafe
      67·
      9 months ago

      She endorsed Biden in 2020 and has spoken out about the end of Roe v Wade and the importance of abortion rights, so while she hasn’t made it her personality her team is as clear as it can ever be for a billionaire.

          • root_beer@midwest.socialEnglish
            14·
            9 months ago

            A movement to repeal the 19th amendment is rumbling underground, and Amy Coney Barrett will lead the way*

            …I’m joking, but am I? Am I really?

            *just as Thomas will be the one to write the leading argument to overturn Loving v. Virginia

            • Globeparasite@lemmy.world
              1·
              9 months ago

              Loving v. Virginia

              really ? Ok America… we need to talk. A court decision isn’t a solid enough basis for any rights, you need an actual law get your council of Elders to do something

              • Nollij@sopuli.xyzEnglish
                1·
                9 months ago

                It’s supposed to be, though. A SCOTUS ruling like that is supposed to be, and traditionally has been, a confirmation that the laws (all things considered) already say it. You don’t need a new law, the interpreter/referee says the current laws already cover it.

                The problems right now are a corrupt judiciary, and a government that does not represent nor even resemble the populace.

                • Globeparasite@lemmy.world
                  1·
                  8 months ago

                  is supposed to be, and traditionally has been

                  corrupt judiciary, and a government that does not represent nor even resemble the populace which is why I promote writing down everything into law

    • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
      532·
      9 months ago

      That’s what I don’t like about her. She’s just in it for the money, and she’s a vapid mo-fo with nothing much to say. Just like her detractors.

      Has it really come to a point where public political discourse is some dumb fuck against some other dumb fuck?

      Before you say it was always like that, think it over, because it is not true.

      Edit: sigh… and the plebs just keep running the propaganda machine’s errands by doing exactly what it tells them to.

      • Dkarma@lemmy.world
        233·
        9 months ago

        Women’s bodies are literally on the line here and you come with some misogynistic bullshit like that???

        You need to take a long hard look at yourself there,sir.

        • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
          422·
          9 months ago

          I did, I took a 45 year hard look and I think you’re a hammer seeing everything as nails. I hate what she represents, a media cabal pitting idiots against each other to distract from what is really going on. Not that she’s a woman. Would you say I’m bigoted against deluded rednecks too?

          Edit: crickets and downvotes. Seems there is no debating some people, they just “know” they’re right.

          • player2@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
            8·
            9 months ago

            I’m guessing you’re not getting many replies because you’re not forming a coherent argument.

            Your first comment was against Taylor Swift expressing the view that her fans should go out and vote. Your second comment is against “what she represents” which you left undefined other than the media cabal which is a separate issue and outside of her control.

  • Spazz@lemmynsfw.com
    893·
    9 months ago

    Remember when the crazies were considered alt right instead of mainstream right?

      • QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world
        7·
        9 months ago

        The Overton Window is a fairly popular concept on Lemmy, and I haven’t the faintest idea why.

        It’s easy to see why the Overton Window holds such appeal. For one thing, it offers a universal theory of change in an age of polarization and fracture. While Trump and the UK Independence Party pull right, and Sanders and Corbyn pull left, Overton’s concept suggests that the mechanism of change is the same. For another thing, it has the virtue of simplicity: Overton did little more than repackage the basic negotiating principle that if you ask for a lot, you will likely get more than if you ask for a little. And although the window offers a theory of change, its central element—the window itself—actually describes the norm from which reality has deviated. Zeynep Tufekci worries in The New York Times that Trump “voices truths outside the Overton Window,” while the British writer Sam Leith speculates that Corbyn may have positioned his party “dangerously far from the centre of the Overton Window.” The window serves as shorthand for the erstwhile consensus. Viewing politics through the Overton Window reinforces liberal notions about the moderate center, even as that center ground erodes.

        For conservatives, by contrast, the Overton Window has always been about strategy. Though Overton himself never committed his most influential idea to paper, his Mackinac Center colleague Joe Lehman continued his work after Overton’s death in 2003 at age 43. Lehman not only coined the term “Overton Window,” he weaponized it, setting up training sessions on the concept for other right-leaning think tankers. The term filtered into the conservative blogosphere in 2006, when Josh Trevino enthused about the window as a tool for the right. “Step by step, ideas that were once radical or unthinkable—homeschooling, tuition tax credits, and vouchers—have moved into normal public discourse,” Trevino declared. “The conscious decision to shift the Overton Window is yielding its results.”

        The concept did not reach a wider audience, however, until Glenn Beck cast Overton’s ideas as the bogeyman in his 2010 best-seller, The Overton Window. The villain of Beck’s tale is Arthur Gardner, an aging PR guru who plots to use the Overton Window to foist his own objectives (“criminalize dissent,” “reinforce dependence and collectivism”) on an unsuspecting and gullible public. In his afterword, Beck urges readers to watch out for manipulation in their own lives and to set their own priorities.

        While Beck shared Overton’s libertarian ideology, he was wary of the window as a strategy for change, imagining a totalitarian left that could hijack it. Its elitist overtones also stuck in his craw: An early champion of the Tea Party, Beck preferred to extol the power of the American people, whereas Overton largely sought to influence policy-making from the top down by “educating lawmakers and the public.” At one point in his novel, Beck takes a veiled swipe at the somewhat otherworldly Mackinac Center, which was founded on an island in Lake Huron: Arthur Gardner’s son boasts that his father “stole the concept” of the Overton Window “from a think tank in the Midwest.”

        https://newrepublic.com/article/138003/flaws-overton-window-theory

  • ceenote@lemmy.world
    653·
    9 months ago

    It’s even more embarrassing, though. The full-time pundits and career politicians pitching a hissy fit right now aren’t alt-right incels. Whining about Taylor Swift is a coordinated strategy.

    • betterdeadthanreddit@lemmy.worldEnglish
      281·
      9 months ago

      It’s not the most useful distinction when the full-time pundits and career politicians in question are taking their cues from the alt-right incels. Certainly still an embarrassment though. This is not how the GOP (re?)gains its credibility among the sane.

      • hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
        152·
        9 months ago

        Their goal isn’t to win credibility with the sane. It’s genocide. They want to exterminate or enslave anyone who disagrees because they know they’ll never win back credibility.

        • Trainguyrom@reddthat.comEnglish
          12·
          9 months ago

          I don’t think these media companies and personalities actually have any agenda beyond enriching themselves at this point

          • hex_m_hell@slrpnk.net
            131·
            9 months ago

            Think about the “demographics shifts” rhetoric. They’re straight up saying “if we don’t murder or criminalize a bunch of people, we have no future.” The only path to continuing to enrich themselves is terrorism and mass murder. Like, I agree, if saving puppies was profitable they’d be doing that instead but it’s not.

            Their only agenda is enriching themselves. It’s just that that agenda happens to coincidence with “kill everyone else or they’ll stop us from taking all the money.”

    • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
      212·
      9 months ago

      They should be courting her not bitching about her. If she said in concert that she would be verry disappointed in anyone that didn’t vote x. It would be difficult to derail that swatch of engaged people.

      • root_beer@midwest.socialEnglish
        12·
        9 months ago

        What could they possibly offer to win her loyalty? We know where she stands on reproductive rights and while it may be a single issue, it’s an enormous single issue for a significant portion of the electorate.

        • linearchaos@lemmy.worldEnglish
          4·
          9 months ago

          More like if they can’t make a good impression, the next best thing is to not talk smack about her at ever opportunity. don’t poke the bull :)

          • root_beer@midwest.socialEnglish
            4·
            9 months ago

            Fair, seems like the common sense strat to take, but we know that they operate totally free and unencumbered from that

  • DigitalTraveler42@lemmy.worldEnglish
    623·
    9 months ago

    Taylor Swift dressed as Hulk Hogan: “listen up all my Swifty-maniacs, I want you to smash the Fash and punch Nazis, oh and PS: fuck MAGA to death!”

  • badaboomxx@lemmy.world
    591·
    9 months ago

    The onion is getring out of things to publish.

    But yeah something that a couple of years appears to be insane now is a reality with the snowflake conservatives

  • meyotch@slrpnk.net
    211·
    9 months ago

    The best thing for the class war is internecine warfare among the upper class.

    • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
      301·
      9 months ago

      internecine

      ˌɪntəˈniːsʌɪn

      adjective

      destructive to both sides in a conflict

      This goes in my mind pocket!

      Though I suppose this tactic works whichever class you belong to, and the upper one has the advantage right now by far.

      * is there no way to get new line only on lemmy? It’s either single line or dual line (all on one line or one on every second line)?

  • BonesOfTheMoon@lemmy.world
    17·
    9 months ago

    Remember the freaky guy who sued Swift for not performing one of his songs? That’s what conservatives sound like lately about her.

      • Dud@lemmy.worldEnglish
        142·
        9 months ago

        Wait seriously, like not at all? If so I can only assume you live out of the US or literally under a rock if you do live in the US.

          • Dud@lemmy.worldEnglish
            143·
            9 months ago

            Or I just don’t know who you are or what your intent/context was over text on the Internet. Seeing as I’m not the only one a little confused/taken in by your sarcasm it might not have been the greatest punchline.

      • WarmSoda@lemm.ee
        53·
        9 months ago

        You’ve never heard of Taylor Swift until last year?
        Do you know who Madonna or Michael Jackson are?

    • S_204@lemm.ee
      481·
      9 months ago

      Apparently the 6’8, 260 lb future Hall of Fame professional footballer player she’s dating is gay because… she’s over 30.

      Also, she thinks things like women should have a choice over what happens to their bodies and that you should be allowed to use the name you like best so that’s a problem too.

      Totally sane and normal stuff.

        • doctordevice@lemm.ee
          32·
          9 months ago

          Not even “vote Democrat,” she just urged people to vote period. And linked to Vote.org encouraging people to research what would be on their ballot. The fact that the right takes this as an attack on them isn’t surprising to anyone.

      • Riven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
        11·
        9 months ago

        Funny thing is they’re both the same age lul. Perfectly normal and reasonable for people to date people their own age. I guess the right just wants to date the cradle.

          • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
            4·
            9 months ago

            Right? There are so many layers to how twisted and bigoted that message is, it packs so much in it. People got paid very well for forging such fine propaganda, this is brand stuff, not some walmart quickfix. There’s so many levels…

            I think it’s being funded by the Russians, but I am also really into completely unrealistic conspiracy theories, so ymmv.

      • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
        8·
        9 months ago

        Apparently the 6’8, 260 lb future Hall of Fame professional footballer player she’s dating is gay because… she’s over 30.

        It is sickening that it has stooped to this level. Just comprehend the number of bigoted points of view expressed there. I could write an essay on that.

        It’s almost diabolical how refined it is, how much time they took with it. I have been following the development of right wing propaganda for over two decades, and I never fail to get stunned over how blatant it is, and how well engineered.

        I would highly recommend to read “Banana Republicans”: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/593702.Banana_Republicans

        Once you see it, you can’t unsee it. Then Manufacturing Consent is essential lore, but the hole goes deep. No other conspiracy theories needed- that is the conspiracy.

    • ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca
      23·
      9 months ago

      With the Kansas City Chiefs headed to Super Bowl LVIII, influential MAGA Media personalities have started circulating conspiracy theories about the pop superstar, promoting the deranged notion that she is part of a sprawling psychological operations plot staged by the NFL and Democratic Party to deliver the 2024 presidential election to President Joe Biden.

      Mr. Kelce’s advertisements promoting Pfizer’s Covid vaccine and Bud Light

      speculation that Ms. Swift is after Mr. Kelce for his money.

      Some say he’s gay https://twitter.com/OwenBenjamin/status/1752422032187470011

      I think you are caught up

      Edit: Neat the Pentagon had to say it’s stupid

      https://www.politico.com/news/2024/02/02/pentagon-to-maga-world-you-need-to-calm-down-over-taylor-swift-00139292

      My favourite quote mentioned in that article courtesy of Fox News

      “It’s real. The Pentagon psy-op unit pitched NATO on turning Taylor Swift into an asset for combating misinformation online,” Watters said.

      Because apparently we want misinformation?

  • lolrightythen@lemmy.world
    431·
    9 months ago

    I agree with the good call. Can’t say I’m as fascinated by her receiving more attention than half the NFL teams, tho

    • bus_factor@lemmy.world
      331·
      9 months ago

      Why would you be fascinated by that? She’s probably been more famous than all of the NFL combined for more than a decade. Why wouldn’t she get more attention than them?