The fact that it creates such strong emotions and deep discussions is proof that it’s indeed art.
Can you imagine all the sad artists out there who have never managed to piss anyone off?
‘Oh that’s a nice little drawing! Let’s put it on the fridge next to your siblings all-As report card.’ == Total artistic failure
This implies internet trolls are artists
That would be a kind of performance art.
With that logic, everything is art.
Like my comment for example.
But first, we need to discuss what the definition is of art before we can categorize things as art or not.
To me, art is playing with your senses. Like painting is playing with your perception senses, music is playing with your auditory senses, dancing with vestibular senses, food with gustatory senses, …
In that sense, the banana plays with the most important sense of your body: the brain. By making you think about a nonsensical concept.
To me, Art is a catalyst for discussion, reflection, and expression.
So yes, I view internet trolling as a form of art. Maybe not capital A Art, but is it not the art of a sub culture? A way to catalyze discussion, debate, expression? A well crafted message that in often a hundred words or less that sparks endless debates and reactions?
Is the art the catalyst or the consequences?
Is the art the banana or my feelings about it?
To me I think its all art.
With that logic, everything is art.
Not necessarily, no. I think nagram has summarized my feelings on it, though.
dancing with vestibular senses
I’m not sure I understand this one. The audience is just watching, aren’t they?
Or that definition of art fucking sucks.
Is David Thorne not doing a kind of performance art here? He’s being deliberately obtuse, and he’s turned it into comedy.
Sure, some people can absolutely elevate trolling by another name into art, but by not incorporating skill or emotional expression into the definition you’re accepting that tweens yelling slurs at the internet is art because it becomes solely about provoking a response.
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The funny thing about the banana taped to a wall is, that it is art simply by encouraging people to discuss what art even is.
Pretty genius if I Am going to be honest.
That and the majority of people don’t know the title and if they did they would understand the humor imbedded within the work a little better.
When I teach conceptual art in my class I always compare this to Duchamp’s Fountain. Everything that’s old becomes new again.
As a work of conceptual art, it consists of a certificate of authenticity with detailed diagrams and instructions for its proper display.
I love it.
If you’re talking about it, it’s art. It might be annoying, ridiculous art but it’s art.
Every human choice can be considered art, honestly, however dull or trivial it may seem. ¯\(ツ)/¯
it’s art up until you charge $5000 for something that will rot in a week, then you’re taking the piss.
unironically the take
Taste is subjective!
“I can get behind that.”
I like this art! 😄
“You absolut degenerate homunculus, do you have any idea…”
The banana is art
the banana is probably rotten by this point has anyone checked lately?
IIRC, it’s not the specific banana that’s art, just like it’s not the specific paint on canvas. It’s the the placement and choice.
the banana is replaced regularly when the piece is exhibited and to my knowledge has been eaten during exhibition, once by some rich crypto-bro after having bought a specific installation aling with the rights to tape a banana to a wall and call it Comedian.
that thing just continues to be a gold mine for stories about the art world.
hmm unsatisfying answer but good to know :P
My dear ThotDragon, I’m afraid now you’ve gone and upset me…
In fact, you shouldn’t enjoy art. You should simply admit that it exists, then move on. Anything else is patronizing.
not me im an art truther. art isn’t real and has never existed. amen and hallelujah the art believers will burn in the misery pit of their own creation. 🙏 🧚♀️
money? nothing else to ask for in a late stage capitalist society.
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But is it art?
me too
Banal? Nah…
Bananal
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The world’s greatest criminal miiiiind!
It’s modern art. And as everyone knows, most modern art is money laundering with extra steps. It’s totally something Ratigan would do.
modern art ended in c 1970, you’re thinking of postmodern art
also, postmodern art just describes a movement; only a subset of it is created with illegitimate intent.
further, art of any era can and has been used for laundering, in the same way that mattresses or real estate may be used :)
also after some quick googling, i learned that the taped banana artwork Comedian by Maurizio Cattelan is from 2019! it came out closer to COVID lockdown than we are now.
idk if this was shocking to anyone else, i always pictured it as having been created in ~2009!
“Art is about provocation of emotions.”
“Here’s a thing that made to provoke emotions, and it obviously does since we’re talking about it”
“No, not like that”
Fart banana
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