Toot link; transcript:
Greta Thunberg could have, by now, carved out a very comfortable life for herself as a liberal grifter-celebrity offering platitudes about personal responsibility at Davos. Instead she connected the dots between ecocide, capital, and empire, aiming squarely at the heart of the beast. And now fresh out of captivity she downplays her own suffering to recenter the urgency of aid to the Palestinian people. No wonder she’s hated by the fascist+lib coalition that rules this world.
Author: JP (@jpbreton@mastodon.social)
In a world of Charlie Kirks, be a Greta Thunberg.
I can’t believe I used to hate this woman. She’s so badass.
why did you hate her?
I really really REALLY want to hear ONE sentient answer to this question. I cannot understand it. I can’t even understand the ROUTE your logic would take.
Yes, there are influencers out celebrating their own actions a bit too much for promotional purposes. The worst I’ll ever feel for them is rolling my eyes and not caring about them.
I want to believe I could be convinced otherwise, but I almost feel like regardless of what circumstances you were built up around or how you learned about a person like her, there has to be something fundamentally wrong with you to have hatred for someone showing concern for the world’s path of self destruction, and putting themselves at risk for everyone’s sake to try to resolve it.
@jpbreton@mastodon.social is SO CLOSE to winning allies lol. Your superiority feels great friendo but won’t get your any closer to your goal. You should learn some humility. Crying about liberals is like throwing a tantrum on Christmas day because you got everything except one item on your list. Learn to accept people where they are, and when it’s time to ask for help, at least have someone willing to show up to fight fascism with you. Good luck. You are loved.
The definition of a real hero.
The conversations I’ve had about her when she first made waves were all the same.
Them: I can’t stand her, who does that little pipsqueeck think she is telling adults what to do?
Me: What does her age have to do with what she is saying? Does it make the message any less true?
Them: well… erm… I mean
The OBVIOUS takeaway didn’t have the “obvious takeaway” sticker all over it I guess ffs.
It always bothered me how back then people were all “well, I don’t see her coming up with any solutions!”
She’s a kid my friend, she’s a kid using her free speech in a democratic manner to call for the powers that be to make change. She doesn’t need to have the answers, that’s not her job. Why are you expecting a child to do the work of adults? Fucking expect more from the adults that are doing fuck all to accomplish anything but fatten their pockets and hollow out our public properties.
Edit: I’m talking about then, not now. I know that she’s not a kid anymore.
It’s the embodiment of ad hominem. She can’t be right because she’s (was) a kid.
In a way i really hate these “fuck greta” stickers. On the other hand it says so much about the person who would put them on their cars or motorcycles, that it’s hard to be mad about.
I was at my mechanic one day and some guy brought in his car, while a friend of his then picked him up with his bike. Both of them proudly sported a fuck greta sticker. It was very confusing and back then the first time i have ever seen them. That was when she was still under age, i think.
I asked him what the deal was with it. And he said: i hate that little green cunt, and she’s trying to tell me what to do? Hell nah. I didn’t want to engage in the conversation any more, but in hindsight i wish i asked him what talking points he hated the most. Because i don’t think she cares that you drive a 1.6l VW and probably doesn’t care about your friends motorcycle.
She legit deserves to be canonized as a saint, yet republicunts want to rape her.
Those two go hand-in-hand.
Greta is the real deal. She is unironically unfathomably based.
The woman has impeccable integrity and a worldwide audience. I cannot overstate how dangerous she is. No amount of money or manipulation can turn her sights off pollution and genocide.
Put yourself in the place of the wealthy. You can buy anything you want, nothing is out of bounds. Everyone kisses your ass and does as you say. But this pestiferous little woman can’t be bought, and failing that, she cannot be threatened. Carry her off to jail for the evening, your picture is placed alongside a picture of her smiling as the cops drag her off. Imagine your shock and fear! This is totally outside your experience. I’m rather surprised she hasn’t been quietly assassinated, made to look an accident.
“Because some men aren’t looking for anything logical, like money. They can’t be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn.”
Or not burn as the case may be. :)
Nothing short of killing her would work, and even then she would be a martyr
And that is why Israhell didn’t kill her.
“If you strike me down, I shall become more powerful than you can possibly imagine.”
If she would be killed it would 100% make her a martyr. Literally any form of trying to suppress her achieves the same effect. She is too powerful for the elite to ignore her, but also to powerful to really act against her.
She’s my hero
That interview she just put out was gut wrenching. She has every right to feel indignant at her treatment but she still wants to fight and reframe the discussion around those that are suffering more.
Shes basically The Shit.
Unsure if it’s the one you’re referring to, but she did an interview in Swedish and the frustration you hear from her is just as gut wrenching.
I could speak of all of the children who are no longer able to go to school, of all the children who required amputation, of all the children now orphaned. Of all of the houses and quarters that have been obliterated by bombs. I could also speak of the extreme physical abuse and the torture we were subjected to in prison. I could speak of the many bombings that our boats were attacked with on the way to Gaza. But nothing sticks! I could list all the international laws and UN conventions that Israel is breaking every day, of which we have seen a tiny, tiny piece. But this has already been said thousands of times. And like I said, it doesn’t stick.
She technically says “it doesn’t bite” rather than stick, but I don’t think that kind of phrasing works in English. In essence, it means to have an effect. She expresses that nothing she can say will have any sort of effect, so why bother talking about it? That it’s not like we’re unaware of what’s going on, but that we’re choosing to ignore it. How no matter what atrocities we’re exposed to, nothing has the effect of making those in power do something about it.
We’re pouring money to Ukraine in this proxy war against Russia, which obvs. isn’t a bad thing, Ukraine deserves the support. Yet our politicians are expressing none of that staunch humanitarian fervour for the Palestinians.
She is as bad ass as these right wing grifters wished they were. But if your audience is brain dead, you don’t actually have to do anything, you can just claim things.
the queen of protests, adored by the radical left, a purely protest based organization. life goal? that’s way too long term for you
Is your life goal being a lowly comment stooge for people that dont give a shit if you die tomorrow?
Hey, look…it’s jimmy90 the zionist, again! How ya doing, jimmy? Still in training to be a cunt?
Tougher than you’ll ever be.
Get a job
obvious troll above. For everyone else: Greta and the Flotilla team were illegally raided while providing life-saving food aid to the Palestinian victims of Israel’s starvation campaign. It’s far from “purely protest”
EAD
She should win the Nobel Peace Prize.
She doesn’t care about that.
How? She probably hasn’t even raped a child.
Also never dropped the United States’ surplus of WWII-era bombs on Asians.
She’s apparently been nominated several times
The Nobel peace prize is reserved for war criminals. It’s a fucking joke.
Not only does she deserve it, but the tantrum Mango Mussolini would throw about it would be so fucking funny.
That would be hilarious! Such an irony, lol!
When are they given out? I notice some Nobel prizes for science/whatever are already being announced.
ST. GRETA!!!
Ho Ho…ones opinion of Greta is, to make, a truly accurate barometer of your character. Funny how mainly assholes dislike her.
I originally disliked her whole thing because to me, it looked like she had been groomed and pushed by her parents for fame by proxy. Oh boy how have I been proved wrong, and I admire that brave woman.
She has amazing willpower, connections and fame, she could have a cushy job as a PR mascot or a CEO, But guess what? She still chooses to be on the trenches, fighting for all of us trapped under capitalism’s boot, so we can’t spread our message like her.
I truly admire her, her message and what she stands for.
It really is a simple litmus test. Why would you hate the girl that’s sometimes on the news, standing tall for what she believes in, if you aren’t a complete piece of shit? What reasonable explanation could there be for hating her? None.
If you mean the speedo clad waxed ape, he hates everyone smarter than him, which is basically everyone because the man has the IQ of a meat locker.
I feel like when it comes to passion, autism is a superpower. My neurotypical self, would never.
More power to her.
Will is a superpower. Drive and focus are superpowers. Hyperfixation are just happenstance. She has done this of her own making and design, not because of a quirk of her birth. Anyone is capable of it, given the right mindset.
Sure, yes and true until we get to the last sentence. Anyone is absolutely not capable. There are many reasons why some people will never get to the mindset required to sustain any of these superpowers no matter what because the genes and brain wiring you end up with are more powerful than any external factors.
Yes and no.
Strong feelings about perceived justice and refusing to do what you know is wrong, to the point you rather sacrifice yourself then make a compromise are clinically known common tenets in autism.
Source: I am an autist and this was part of my diagnosis. It remains a challenge in holding a job because i refuse to work for anything that creates profit and frequently openly question the ethics of management decisions.
Still Greta is an idol of mine since her first move precisely because she did what i had never been able too. Which was to stop listening to my peers and acting on my own accord.
Strong feelings about perceived justice and refusing to do what you know is wrong, to the point you rather sacrifice yourself then make a compromise are clinically known common tenets in autism.
This feels like something added by groups in power who want to maintain a status quo rather than an actual medical scientific reasoning, kind of how before being LGBT was a mental disease and women’s brains were different and that’s why they couldn’t do what men do in white collar jobs or positions of power. Or phrenology being used to explain why whites were superior.
Something they don’t teach in school is how the concept of a disability only emerges in contrast to an individuals environment.
If the majority of people where high functioning neurodivergents then the world would be designed to play into their strengths and they would be “neurotypical”. Everyone who is neurotypical now would have a neurological disadvantage and thus count as disabled.
In a modern perspective of autism and adhd in human history its quite possible that society requires us as a subgroup, similar (often overlapping) to the prehistoric advantage of having 10% of you group being nightowls that could keep the communal fire burning.
I think they should remove Aspergers from the autism umbrella. It’s clearly advanced or evolutionary, not a negative syndrome. I know, some won’t have excuses to make anymore, but that’s probably a good thing.
No it’s not. I have what used to called Aspergers and it’s not a freaking superpower, it made my childhood a painful and confusing time and still causes my trouble today. You can’t judge all autistics by one autistic. Look at Elon Musk, you think he represents the autistic community?
My cousin was diagnosed with Asperger’s a long time ago and I can agree with you for a fact that it definitely presents in many different ways, and cannot simply be called a ‘superpower’. He has struggled for a very long time and continues to struggle to this day. Thank you for providing a balanced opinion.
Well there is a sociological theory that autism evolved and was kept around in the population because the tribe always needed someone laser focused on the tiny differences between berries or something. They were probably responsible for a lot of the leaps forward because everyone else would be just getting on with life and didn’t have the mental space for anything else.
After they invented flint napping it probably gave them very high status within the tribe, so they would have had a lot of kids and so the trait was retained. But equally it would be detrimental if everyone was like that because you still need people to be good at hunting so although the trait would have survived, it would have always been a minority of the population. Which of course is exactly what we see, it just looks a bit different now there are 7 billion of us.
Processes for Cheese? Sour dough? Beer? As if these were invented by normies, amirite?
Yeah whoever invented beer was probably given leader of the tribe lifetime status.
Although jokes aside it probably wasn’t very strong, it was more about finding way to purify water
Those are so easy to make they’re likely accidents. Literally just leave some random fruit in water and you’ll probably get alcohol or vinegar.
Good point and you are right. Her drive and focus are what’s import here.
she’s useful distraction puppet, so you feel you have someone on your side, she rebel so you don’t have to
she inspired me to go vegan as I believe that it is a positive action for the environment and society.
If that’s how you feel, then I’d wager that you (like, you personally) are just looking for an excuse to not protest/“rebel” and are projecting.
Seriously, your statement boils down to “if other people do x, they just do it so I don’t have to do x, which is bad, therefore no-one should do x. Why is no-one doing x?”
people need symbols, that’s how you rule them
Symbols inspire.
also release energy instead of accumulating
also rally people and show them that it is possible to change things, give hope,…
But back to your original comment. Thinking that Greta helps the current systems by doing what she does is a brain-dead take.
So you say everyone needs another Jesus.
Goddamn you’re dumb
thank you
Seek employment
She’s a person who has the courage to stand by her convictions. Some people feel threatened by it, some people feel insecure about themselves because they lack the strength to do what she does. Much respect to her.
