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  • Lumisal@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldToo soon?
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    The Biden/Harris admin acknowledged climate change, and appointed the first Native American to the position of Secretary of the Interior, who then approved the Willow Project (which climate scientists declared a world ending “carbon bomb”), and approved such a record number of fossil fuel extractions that the courts struck them down for not considering the climate impact.

    Yes, he approved that. He also did all of this. In particular, I’d like to point out this part in the wiki:

    “Some environmental organizations, including Sierra Club, Sunrise Movement, Earthjustice, and more, claim that President Biden took 322 actions to protect the environment—more than any other president in history.”

    Although I disagree that those actions are as equivalent as important as say the National Parks program for example. Either way, go ahead and show that the Trump admin has even mentioned the intention of doing anything similar. I’ll wait. (You do realize this rhetoric only helps the fascists too, right? Just as much as pretending the DNC Dems are left wing).

    The Biden admin’s CDC prematurely ended Covid guidelines, and let the ceo of Delta set their post-infection isolation guidelines. Biden’s FDA were approving drugs that they knew didn’t work, because they wanted to appease their pharma lobbyists.

    To pretend that the Biden administration’s actions were ANYTHING near as bad as Trump’s is just a bad faith argument. It honestly just makes you seem like you’re purposefully making the literal anti-science fascists seem not bad by pretending the two were even close, for fuck’s sake. At least the dude knew basic fucking biology.


  • Lumisal@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldToo soon?
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    Kamala and get administration wouldn’t have put an antivaxxer in charge of the FDC or climate deniers in charge of the EPA etc.

    Nor would they have had straight up thugs running around like the current ICE.

    The Dems (or more specifically, the DNC) have definitely enabled on purpose the Republicans. But they at least mostly followed the law and kept order.

    I understand the frustration of people not understanding that the DNC Democrats are very right wing as well, and even actually collaborate with Republicans / fascists. But they’re more culturally liberal oligarchs than straight up authoritarian fascists. People would still be harmed by their policies, but groups like Transexuals wouldn’t have to fear they’ll get killed by the government.

    Equating the two completely is bad faith. They’re very close - cut a neoliberal and a fascist bleeds - but they’re not the same. Under Kamala, the might have been a 10% chance at a more peaceful resolution via elections (maybe 25% if Trump died, 50% if he actually went to jail) because leftists like Mamandi could have kept running and winning some power.

    But under Trump, there’s no more chance of that at all, PLUS it accelerates all the bad thing.


  • Lumisal@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldToo soon?
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    Stating not breaking laws is equivalent to doing no harm / doing nothing wrong is the logical fallacy, specifically “appeal to law”.

    Saying a genocide has to happen in order for someone’s evil to be justified however, is insane. By your logic, attempted murder shouldn’t be a crime either, because no one got killed.


  • Just because you’re not a fighter doesn’t mean you’re right.

    Did your dad stop because you didn’t fight back?

    I’m sorry, but you sound more like my older brother than anything. Guess which one of us didn’t get beat as a teen at some point?

    A bully doesn’t stop just because you’re peaceful. A psychopath doesn’t go easier on people because there’s less resistance. Even you tried violence - you think incarceration isn’t a form of violence? If you say no, you’d be saying when you got locked up in a room, that was a peaceful action then. But we both know that’s not the case, is it? Even you tried putting the fucker in a jail - just not with your own violence but with the backing of the state.

    Trump nearly getting shot didn’t win him the election. Running Kamala as his opponent did, and I had told my family as much back then (this is assuming there were no electoral shenanigans).

    And whether Charlie Kirk lived or died, there already has been violence against others. That’s what ICE is. That’s what the gay voice actor for King of the Hill getting killed was. That’s what Kyle Rittenhouse did.

    The government is run by people like your dad. Was your dad someone who would change if nothing was done against him? What if now, you made it so he could avoid legal consequences too? What if he knew the police, the courts, etc would never touch him?

    That’s what you’re dealing with.

    I don’t blame you for being a coward, and thinking being peaceful will maybe make things better. Not everyone has that fire in them. My brother didn’t, and my mother didn’t for the longest time either. Some people do, some don’t. That’s not your fault. You don’t have to support those willing to fight back.

    But you sure as hell don’t get to say it’s wrong for them to do so either. They fight so people like you, hopefully, one day, don’t go through the shit you did. They kill if they have to because there’s no alternative left. Had they done so much, much sooner, things wouldn’t have been as bad as they are. But the bullies have convinced the majority that docility will make things better - because having no opposition is what they want.


  • Lumisal@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldToo soon?
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    I meant past tense.

    Future tense it’s too late. I meant as in under Kamala instead of Trump.

    Things would still be terrible, but they’d undeniably be less terrible. There still being suffering doesn’t change that there would be less of it.

    Not to mention it would slow down climate change a bit more compared to the current regime, which instead going full throttle on the gas pedal. And that’s something that affects all humans.

    PS: by “we” I meant the world. I’ve lived in Finland for many years now.


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    We were better off with the Dems in charge. The difference is it’s like having your feet on fire vs full emolation. But the point is it’s easier to extinguish feet than it is the whole body, and causes less damage too.

    And by this I mean peace was still a possible, if unlikely, resolution.


  • Lumisal@lemmy.worldtoLemmy Shitpost@lemmy.worldToo soon?
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    Perhaps not American law (well, that’s debatable too), but he certainly would have been hanged to death at the Nuremberg trials, since he has done the same propaganda that other Nazis in Hitler’s government did. That is, if we simply ignore your “appeal to law” fallacy.

    That he faced no consequences for stochastic terrorism among other things is only an indication of the failings of both your justice system and your country’s morality. Violence like this, against people like him, only happens when there is a lack of justice.

    As for how absolute free speech (not to be confused with regulated speech or absolute censorship) can be the seeds of authoritarianism, I suggest you read Popper’s “paradox of tolerance” as a starting source. Speech without consequences begets falsehoods that are ripe for any right wing government to co-opt. Which is exactly what has been happening in the USA for quite some time.