At this rate by 2030 hating Linux will classify as war crime
You mean it isn’t?
the last time i checked it wasn’t.
brb, sending email to ICJ.
keep us updated
It really brings back that classic internet feeling.
I’m genuinely laughing out loud, such a wild comment out of left field caught me totally off guard. I don’t think I’ve seen such stupid malice in actual years
I’m guessing it’s actually because you’re Republican
A right winger misrepresentating a situation to appear more sympathetic? Say it ain’t so.
Also really unlikely that a linux nerd would call you a “fag”
Eh, there’s plenty of community for projects like XLibre where that seems more likely, what with the “anti-woke” ideas.
They wouldn’t be angry at a right-winger though
Oh nice, infinite pixel version.
MAGA… “Free thinkers.” Lol.
More like “free of thinking”.
Free from the restraints of logic!
Doublespeak
FTFY: “When you say you don’t like linux and Mexicans and that black ppl should go back to africa”
More likely the reason, indeed.
So cool, I love that marker you put on me. Makes it easier to round up people you don’t like ;)
Aww man. I’ve been searching for someone who consistently gets more downvotes than upvotes and you were so close. Keep it up!
(Seriously this is a thing I do. I’m not kidding you. Every time I see someone with an incredibly bad take I look at their profile for this. I’m trying to see if those kinds of people eventually get tired and stop commenting, stay mostly silent, or what)
Stay tuned, I’ve got my whole life ahead of me!
You mean like ICE is doing right now?
Man, nobody can put “a target” on you for something you say on a public forum that people get mad about.
You guys want freedom of speech? Freedom of speech is also getting shit on online for something you say. You have a right to speak, not a right to be liked.
Lol says the ice supporting Nazi
Aww sweaty, you’re making my night :^)
I’m not getting sweaty with you, magat
Lol nice malapropism. Or is “sweaty” just a Republican term of endearment ever since the whole Trump / Epstein debacle?
Ironically enough I know it as a 2014-era tumblr meme
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Don’t worry man, I’m fine with you here. Sometimes I want to have a glimpse in to the world of republican politics to see if they make any sense whatsoever.
That’s what coworkers are for ):
I really wish you people were as oppressed as you think you are
Awwww, is the widdle MAGAt upset they can’t blend into the crowd and lie about why they received mean messages?
Nobodys rounding you up bub, we just want you to go away
Man, I don’t like MAGA either. I think they represent pretty much everything that’s wrong with society today…
But for a community that talks so often about disliking echo chambers, it really seems like most Lemmy users want an echo chamber.
Lemmy has everything from libs to anarchists to tankies. If that’s an echo chamber I think I’ll survive without fascist voices in the mix. The North Korea apologists are bad enough.
That’s fair, I can definitely understand that position and agree with you on the NK apologists.
From my point of view, I think it’s more productive to interact with people I disagree with, in the (possibly naive) pursuit of changing their minds. If people are kicked out for their views, I’d imagine many of them will just double down and act like a martyr.
To be clear, I’m not saying we shouldn’t call these people out and downvote them – that’s why that function exists right? But maybe once in a while, something that we argue will resonate with them.
Of course there are limits to that approach, and this all hinges on the other person arguing in good faith. Based on the OP’s post history, I’ll admit that I may be barking up the wrong tree in this case.
I honestly think there’s essentially zero chance of any argument resonating with someone who identifies as MAGA at this point.
I’d say there’s more danger to letting them into spaces to push hateful shit than there is benefit in the moonshot chance that one of them might hear an argument that resonates.
See, I’m torn. On one hand, I feel like this ‘us vs. them’ mentality contributes to the sort of tribalism that ultimately results in movements like MAGA popping up. If these people can only operate in MAGA-friendly spaces, they’ll rarely speak to anyone who disagrees with them, and will have no reason to reflect on their worldview.
Then I read the news. If current events aren’t enough to convince them that they’re misguided, I’m not sure that anything will.
I’m not sure I know what the solution is, but it’s been an interesting discussion.
That’s an optimistic perspective and I feel like we need more optimism these days. And maybe sometimes people do change their minds on things with social media discussions, though I think it’s already a difficult medium to work with.
For maga shit though, those people are basically cultists, and from what I understand it’s pretty much impossible to get people out of a cult without a personal connection helping them.
It says a lot that you were trying to keep it hidden. Why? Not proud of it?
Must feel great then for this to be the top level comment and everyone seeing through your bullshit :) <3. Makes it easier for people to know to avoid you, while you pretend like you’re not actively rounding up people who aren’t the same color as you <3.
Beep.
Anyone who has this strong of a reaction to something so inconsequential must be a deeply unhappy person. It sucks to suck.
Also, anyone who calls someone a ‘fag’ is a complete fucking moron. I doubt things will improve for them with so few brain cells to work with.
They are a huge racist and a MAGA and trolled you
In what way did they troll me? Did somebody call them a fag or not? If so, I don’t care what their justification was, that person is an asshole.
There’s a high likelihood they sent themselves that message so they could screenshot it and go ‘Look what the Linux users do!’ It’s what OP appears to do, mostly given it’s what users like them often do.
Objection, Your Honour! This is speculation.
Well two things can be true
Arch enemy.
Arg. Take your upvote and get out.
Arch lemmemy
btw
Add a thinkpad to fulfill the cult completely. 🫳🤜
Ignore the 12 year old edgelords, just like any other forum.
Lemmy is nearly 100% 32 year old edgelords
Hey, some of us are 35-year-old edgelords
Hey, I’m a 59 so perhaps the average means there are 12yr olds as well :)
Both of them are edgelords, check OP’s history
Well that’s just straight mean to fags.
Tbh Linux got me into gay porn.
Linux the Groomer
I would also like to have nice little messages in my inbox. I run Linux though. Debian Stable to be exact. If you run anything else you are wrong and stupid.
Check your inbox
It says shitpost, but I 100000% believe this is a real thing.
@tane@lemy.lol
(They’ve been banned forever)
Forever = 2 minutes it takes to create a new account, because who the fuck cares.
Now say that you don’t like Firefox
I don’t like Firefox. But I use it anyway
Don’t we all
I don’t like it either. But I use LibreWolf side by side with Vivaldi
I use GNOME Web
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No, not really
systemd-webd for me!
I use a magical orb that I gaze into.
Before i decided to ditch Chromium wholesale i originally wanted to try Vivaldi. I loved the customisation except for the strange omission of not being able to have the bookmarks bar only show on a new tab page. How is what is usually one of the only bits of customisation on a standard browser not in the browser lauded over for its customisation. Bonkers
I’m currently in the process of converting over; have a dual boot and will probably leave it that way for the next year.
It is NOT, by any measure, that Linux is annoyance free and perfectly designed. It’s that Windows has been building up its annoyances in competition, so that going penguin takes a considerable measure of bloat off.
We’re at a point where some games are just performing better through Proton than running right on Windows.
I dual boot as well, and the only thing I’ve booted my windows install for was to work around a driver issue where my headset mic was no longer detected. Other than that, and troubleshooting why flat packs weren’t launching, my install of Bazzite has been rock solid.
Good plan. You’ll definitely find things you don’t like along the way and struggle. And having something to get things done in a crunch is useful. Just keep learning and in the end you’ll have all the tools you need and it’ll be great.
The slur there is uncalled for and absolutely not okay.
But you did talk shit about Linux so…
Jesus christ! What the hell is wrong with people???
I’m on ZorinOS, but I gotta say, this is the dark ages of PC. Windows is full on dog shit, Mac always has been expensive as fuck, and Linux just doesn’t have the userbase to rely on companies making their programs available for the format.
On top of that linux has ALWAYS has had a very terminal based culture.
I’ve always said and continue to believe that linux CAN BE good for the average nontech minded folk. The way this happens is Flatpak becomes the dominant format in program installation. Terminal doesn’t have to change, it can still be used exactly as it is, but it takes a backseat in terms of how the system is presented to newbies.
If I look up how to fix X problem on linux, I should by default find a GUI based solution. YOU can still use terminal to do whatever you do. I myself don’t get it. The average user doesn’t get it. I find solutions online. They say “Put this command in terminal”. I do that, it goes as expected. And then “ok, now run these commands” and the first few go as expected. And then it will spit out some error that I don’t understand. “ERROR THE L LISTS AREN’T COMBOBULATED TO THE FCAP COMPORRIUM” or some shit. What the hell??? What am I supposed to do with that??? So you copy the error, ask online what it means, and they say “Oh, your L Lists just need to be updated to the new repository. Just sync your flabarts to the chukchuk.”
And thats about the time I lose my temper and decide to just get really drunk and watch the big bang on over the air tv, because what the hell does any of this matter anyways if I can’t even install a simple program, and update some drivers?
Now. Let’s rewind. What if linux, regardless of distro had the same flatpak store, the same interface for it, and some under the hood settings that are standard across the board? The rest of the distro can be whatever, but you should have a reliable way to change and update basic shit.
And for those of you like the guy in this threads photo, who are going to bombard me with death threats and insults, just consider this. People have been saying Windows is unusable dog shit since the 90s. Mac has always been unaffordable for most people. And Linux is free, and supposedly 1000% more stable in every way. Yet last time I looked, Linux, on the rise, had an all time high user base sharehold of 5.49% of the PC market. If you think I’m wrong, explain why Linux isn’t not just the leader, but the dominant leader. Being free AND better should make it the obvious choice, but it’s clearly not. There’s a reason for that. And it’s terminal.
Right now we’re living in the dark ages of PCs. We got windows at it’s all time worst, mac expensive as always, and linux still pushing users away by far.
Almost certainly there alt. From post history they are an edgy ragebaiter
He’s a huge racist and a trump loving MAGA. He isn’t getting hatemail for not liking Linux
Welp. That part I didn’t know.
Windows just fucking works. Bitch all you want about every other aspect of the OS. It just fucking works. And that’s all 99.995% of users give a shit about.
I install Windows, I expect every driver to work. Far cry from how it was back in the day! Linux? Well, good luck. The most basic shit will work, but you got weird problems to sort out.
And almost all of the Windows problems bitched about on here? I get downvoted every time I say, “Uh, I don’t have those issues.” Probably because I’m running a plain-vanilla ISO? I honestly don’t know.
Lemmy: “Fuck you! You DO have those issues! I read about it in a Linux-loving forum like lemmy!”
Guess what, just like you dgaf about all the windows issues i have that you don’t; i also dgaf about all the linux issues that you have that i don’t.
It should be a mater of choice, but it isn’t. I don’t get a choice about windows for 7.5 hours a day because too many humans are fucking cunts - plus a lot of anti-competitive business practices and grooming lncompetence in corpo procurement . I don’t really blame ms for that i blame people who keep paying them to make their shit worse, and the procurement rules that they come up with to bend themselves over that barrel.
Nobody gives a shit, you fucking nerd.
Anyone can buy a computer that comes with Linux or a computer known to work well with Linux and have the same experience
My experience is installing the OS on any given PC or laptop. Of course a purpose-built machine, with the OS pre-tweaked, will rock out! No question!
But take any given machine, throw Win11 or a Linux ISO (take your pick) on there, you’re fucking about with Linux far more than Windows.
It’s not hard for people like us, or we wouldn’t be having this conversation in this forum. But “normal” people are going to struggle with getting Linux setup. And keep in mind, Linux is totally alien to people who have always used Windows.
Normal people should either buy a computer with Linux just like they would windows or Mac or google model of computer + Linux before buying.
Its weird to compare apples not only to oranges but to moldy oranges when this isn’t the actual user experience.
People who do continue to use Linux don’t just keep buying random hardware and hoping it works because they have search engines.
No onboarding process with randomly chosen hardware with hostile OEM is ever going to be good enough for people who are stupid lazy and cheap.
That’s great until the first time you want to plug in a peripheral
When I’m shopping for one I simply consider Linux support a requirement. Same as you don’t just buy Xbox games and hope that they work in your ps5.
In 1995…
Windows just working! Lmao
Been working with Windows for 30-years and Linux around 20. Yeah, Windows “just works”. Linux always needs fiddling.
I made “little old lady” computers and laptops for people who couldn’t afford my help. Take their old machine, upgrade with whatever spare parts I had, clean it up, load Linux Lite, fix all the drivers, “Here’s how to get your email and internet.”, done.
That worked because I did the OS fucking around up front. Starting with Win10, maybe even Win7, everything functioned well enough to run. You can’t tell me any given Linux ISO runs without fucking about, right out the box.
You and I aren’t your average user. Don’t put your experience on the others.
Good for you - but that’s not everyone’s experience. So don’t put your experience on others either.
I’m sure it works the other way round, just as often. But that last time when my sister was literally filling out an RMA form for a perfectly functional disk drive because her brand new laptop wouldn’t play a DVD. That was the last straw for me and windows. (except at work of course until/ unless I can get a better job).
Windows, 20 minutes of being advertised at like the internet before pop-up blockers, being pushed to windows store to buy the film again from them, trying a few different media players from the store, various googling - i cant even remember if i was able to install vlc before giving up and going debian - fuck that, unusable, and she couldn’t do it either, so that was at least two of us in the well-below-average slice of the distribution of windows users.
Linux mint live iso booted about 5-10 mins to burn it and boot, play dvd (I dont even think i had to install vlc). Plus a bit of time to figure out how to get the boot menu. So maybe she was above average in debian users?
Windows has problems on a near constant basis. People are used to that but that doesn’t excuse it. I have used windows about 30 years myself, that’s how I know. It’s really a silly argument. If you used windows this long and are still willing to defend the massive issues it throws at its users, there is not much for me to say besides you shouldn’t.
I’ve been using Windows since 3.0
Windows has a bunch of privacy and evil empire issues. But as far as just using it? It’s been pretty fucking stable since XP days compared to any other OS out there. MAC technically is more stable but only because they tightly control the hardware. You can install Windows on an insane variety of hardware.
Linux? First, please link me to the “Linux OS” oh right you can’t. Linux is a collection of 50+ (more?) OSs with wildly different UIs, functionality, and issues. Don’t get me started on installing software. Each has its repo or multiples or flatpaks or whatever the hell Ubuntu uses.
Hell only a few distributions even support (and not well) the most popular GPU maker on the market for the last 30 years. You know graphics are kinda important? Now that’s what I consider a massive issue to throw at users. And no the end user doesn’t care if that’s Nvidia’s fault or not.
I just installed Linux on a older MSI couple months ago. I spent like 3 hours reading online and trying 4 different distos before I got one that worked. Then oops keyboard lights are sol… Install a game, oops again the default install directory doesn’t work with add-ons because the distro. was immutable. So back to researching. And I’m fairly tech savvy.
So even in 2025 “Linux” isn’t ready for the desktop for your average user. Now that is a silly claim.
Please go back to windows. We don’t need you.
But I don’t have the issues I’m told I should be having. And neither did my users over the last two jobs as a sysadmin.
I’m on a plain vanilla Win11 ISO, upgraded from Win10. I honestly have no idea when I last had an OS issue. As a sysadmin, I can’t think of an OS-level issue my users had over 5-years at my previous job.
I’d be an idiot to say Windows is a perfect OS, but my experience, on the job and privately, does not jive with “problems on a near constant basis”.
I have no idea how old my Windows install is, moved the SSD from 3 or 4 previous computers. Plugged it all up, booted, waited a few minutes, all good. Never had an OS last this long without a wipe. LOL, I was astounded when Windows 2000 Advanced Server went 30-days without a reboot!
These arguments are truly strange to me. I’m told I have problems that I don’t have. And no one can name these problems, just downvotes. And it’s not just me. I’ve overseen fleets of Windows machines. Can’t say none of the problems were OS related, but I can’t think of a single issue ATM, problems were 3rd party software or hardware failures.
no one can name these problems, just downvotes
False. Trivial to name name but you’ve already admitted how you will respond
Funny, I did the same with Linux boxes and didn’t have nearly the amount of fiddling you did. Guessing this was a skill issue, and it’s your choice in parts or OS. I made some decent scratch repurposing old business desktops/add/micro systems with Linux and it was easily the most profitable line item I had.
Unpopular opinion, but I partially agree with you.
Win 7 and 10 did pretty much mostly work out of the box. And during those times, Linux didn’t work as well always.
But with Win 11? Microsoft has fucked up. Not only do things not always work (the biggest issue I get is display drivers malfunctioning and Bluetooth/internet issues with updates), but certain Linux distros the hardware works better, which was really weird to come across. Specifically KDE Fedora stuff. I can actually control the brightness on a desktop easily from a software panel for example, instead of having to manually use the buttons on the monitor.
Even HDR recently breaks on Win 11 when it was working just fine, throwing off all the colors outside of the game you’re playing if you activate it for the game.
There’s also something you pointed out in your own comment that’s a benefit that Linux sort of had since even back then - the interface is easier to use than Windows. My dad always had issues figuring out how to use his computer to just browse the internet on Windows but finally learned on Ubuntu. But like you said, at the time, I had to set everything up first. Now? I’m pretty confident certain distros wouldn’t need that.
Bazzite just works. Dual boot is king.
