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This is all joke and fun until you realize we are heading towards the 30s
and we totally passed up girls wearing flapper dresses…
You’re just not hanging out with the right women.
probably 😭
being middle aged and married, i need that shit to be in the open!
I’m 52, married and up until a few years ago I did dance nights regularly. Charleston, swing, salsa, tango, etc with women half my age was a regular thing. It doesn’t have to be weird if you don’t make it weird. They were lovely and we had a blast.
PS: Dancing (Ballroom, hip hop, etc) is a great way to make sure you don’t lose mobility with age. Once you hit ~45 keeping, your mobility starts to be an constant effort.
sadly I have two left feet… I hear you though. I love to people watch and attractive young ladies are attractive but I’m not asking for anything other than enjoying that moment
Go take dance classes. All it takes is practice
Seriously. I found our local vocational school has an evening program for adults including dance classes. Good exercise, nice way to spend an hour and meet a few folks. If you’re new, just take a beginner class! If you aren’t ready to move up from there by the time it’s done, take it again next semester. Lessons usually are not that expensive and everyone is there to learn–it’s ok to have 2 left feet, you’re just trying to get a little more control/comfort using em 🙂
Now with climate change!
But didn’t we have climate change back then? The Dust Bowl…?
Oh yes, it’s going to be just like that, except much worse!
The decade metaphor might fail here but let me tell you it’s five past twelve
i’d personally say it’s at least ten past twelve but whatever
Yeah, but shit was so bad we elected FDR who put in motion the things we coasted off of up till about the 80s when we forgot what it was like without that stuff.
Like, trump might be making things happen faster than scheduled. But I’d rather have AOC in 2029 than 2033…
It doesn’t matter if we think accelerationism was the dumbest gamble in history, it’s already happened.
Yeah but this time we’re doing a faster and ahead of schedule.
Let’s just hope there’s a new FDR to come with it. Sure would love to see that one.
Well, AOC is often only referred to by her initials
I wish AOC could be the new FDR
Every head in the room turns to watch the monkey’s paw curl
Oh no, does that mean shes going to intern Japanese people and be extremely racist?
Yeah but this time we’re doing a faster and ahead of schedule.
Efficiency!
Considering FDR threw 100,000 American citizens into concentration camps because of their race, I think we’ve already got one
World War 3 to begin in 2039
sooner. this play-through is a speedrun
Exactly. Planes were relatively new last time. Now drones are relatively new. Communication is so fast now—it’s a world record speed run for sure
Russia invaded Crimea in 2014. Think about that one.
i’m worried that might be awfully on-spot.
The “limits of growth” study has the following diagram:
after having thought about it for a few months, i do definitely see population rates declining in the future due to low birth rates and a worsening economic situation (lower wages, widespread unemployment, …) but i don’t think a war would be a necessary consequence. it could be just barely avoided if wisdom prevails.
Don’t worry, those of us left are going to see marvelous things once we hit the 60s.
but that also means we will live to see the 40s, and the current nazis hanging upside down.
Unless we’re on the Star Trek timeline in which case WW3 starts next year and runs for 30 years.
We might get there early
Its like before but this time with robots
It’s like before but this time you have to subscribe.
And adds. “Your neighbourhood’s destruction, sponsored by General Concrete inc!”
At least we skipped a world war 1 part deux.
The 1920’s was also started with the type of weird kind-of-flu epidemique.
They had some years of crazy partying between end of ww1/the spanish flu ine the late 1910d and the great depression and fascism really got hold in the end of the 1920S tho, so couldnt we at least get some of those years first?:(
The poor weren’t at those crazy parties, they were organizing and fighting for workers rights. The rich are in fact having crazy parties right now, if my rich Snapchat friends are anything to go by.
Do you ask me? I don’t decide (^_-)
Nah, it won’t be the same.
100 years ago we didn’t have ecological collapse.
America was about to have the Dust Bowl and China a drought that caused a massive famine, so we definitely had some localised ecological collapse
or nuclear weapons
Depending on an angle, one can say it began around that time 😅
“Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
– George Santayana,
The Life of Reason, 1905. From the series Great Ideas of Western Man.
History doesn’t repeat but it sure as shit rhymes.
Battles never end, they just get hushed up. Dystopian tactics; throw a blanket over it and pretend it doesn’t exist because society is perfect for the rich and the powerful.
And they continue to forget it’s all a numbers game and we outnumber them by a magnitude. Tl’dr they’re fucked.
But that’s where complacency and escapism becomes a large tool against the numbers. Its much too hard to get up and revolt when their favorite show is going to be on at 8 or X streaming service got a new movie. Only a fraction get up to protest when the rest sit back back and mumble under their breaths to their screens.
We need a major fuckup to get them off their couches, you know, something like policing the internet, or crashing the market and causing disgusting inflation rates. Oh wait. Its a shame that we’ve waited until things got this bad.
Agree. People were so concerned about 1984 that they didn’t see Brave New World creeping up on us.
How you crack the complacency is beyond me.
Cracking the code is:
if (complacency > annoyances) { sleep(); } else { riot(); }
People are the worst. Agriculture was a mistake. If I have a time machine I’d go back and kick that fucker tiktaalik back into the ocean.
I’m sure you’re joking, but actually I’m reading a very interesting book about this topic called “The Dawn of Everything: A New History of Humanity.”
It’s really concerned with freedom, and disputes the idea that the lack thereof is inherently tied to agriculture.
Agriculture made more humans. More humans is always trouble.
(But it is a really incredible book, as are all of Graeber’s work. If you like it you should read Debt: The First 5,000 Years)
“This is not good! Worlds are colliding! George is getting upset!”
-George Costanza
Seinfeld “The Pool Guy” - Season 7, Episode 8 (1995)
What you mean? People on the 20s were clearly traumatized by a recent pandemic, pushing for worldwide economic protectionism and isolationism, revolting against and dehumanizing people that practiced “sexual dissidence”…
Time’s a flat circle
It’s going to take the young to fight the fascists in America. Hope they are ready.
I give it a year tops before the beginning of civil war 2.0
I’ll give it a year tops before the beginning of the World War III.
I’ll take that bet! Because I’m not big on online presence depending where you are if you’re in the GTA and the world is on fire more than it currently is I owe you a beer.
Nice, I hope I’m going to lose. I live in Russians neighborhood, so we will see if I’m able to get that beer.
After learning about the term ‘puriteens’ I’m not sure the youngest Americans will want to.
Hope they are ready.
They young or the fascists? Because the fascists don’t look to be in much shape for a proper beating.
The fascists are fat fucks. This is well know.
Young white men seem to be one of the biggest demographics for trump supporters. It’s not just the old.
A shit ton of those Caucasians are overweight. Sadly that’s just the state of our health nationally. I went back to power lifting and am getting to my three plate goal for benching. I haven’t lifted this much in decades. But I’m still big bellied. So I have work to do to get ready. But I do expect there to be a need to be in shape soon enough.
When you’re talking military age, obesity is extremely lower than say anybody 30+
Have you read the military reports on how limited the population pool is for healthy and passable individuals? There’s a concern there isn’t enough healthy fighting age males.
I haven’t. Is it a function of willing able bodied men being lacking, or is it talking about a draft?
…and here comes the 40s
the world wars were basically two halves of the same conflict, the only real difference between the two was the whole Russian Revolution that brought a third communist faction into the mix,
and dont kid yourselves, The Soviet Union was a co-belligerent of the Allies, not a part of them. you aren’t allied with someone when you’re formally at war with them until the mid1920s, watch them kick off a war by partnering with nazi germany, and then have a little ceasefire for 4-5 years between 1941 and 45 when nazi germany betrayed them. and go back to pointing guns at them
Russia sees itself as “other” to the rest of Europe, for those who dont read history, you need only visit a news site to see how that is still the case today
My dad is a child of the 40’s. He’s the quietest, most thoughtful and loving man. Bring on the 40’s.
Nice people are born all the time but fucked up shit don’t happend every decade. The worst of the second war happened after 1940
Twenties gonna twenty.
Capitalism leads to imperialism and fascist. Fascists are the useful idiots of empire. A collective suicide in a exponential function. It will end the human race and most life on earth…
Ugh, we learned nothing.
We didn’t even make it the full decade. We did the whole pandemic thing but just passed on a new Jazz age with interesting new music and style, said no thanks to the libertine philosophy, and decided to fast forward 5 years and let this dusty old turd and his lame wrecking crew of Christian nationalists and the least intelligent pack of nerds that has ever existed, nose dive us right into the fucking ground.
There’s no way this motherfucker couldn’t just hire somebody to do the tariffs math right. He literally had all the money to hire the most talented people bc he’s just been stealing it from us constantly. Instead he and his crew are such cheap little shit stains that they decided to just have AI handle it and fuck it all up as always. And now their big master plan is to dump whatever fucking money is left into more AI!?! Because they still don’t fucking comprehend that’s not the God damn solution to everything!?!
Fuck I hate these dumb fucks so God damn much
God, I bet all of history’s previous dictators are just shaking their heads while they burn in hell because this guy is such a fucking joke.
There’s no way this motherfucker couldn’t just hire somebody to do the tariffs math right.
They couldn’t hire someone to do the tariff math ‘right’ because there is no ‘right’ math to do.
Fair point. Just to be clear though, I don’t say “right” in support of tarriffs, I say, right in terms of not accidentally multiplying the damage by 4x the original plan.
Although, now you got me thinking maybe the 4x worse damage wasn’t even an accident.
There’s a bioscience company with some really shady gov ties that was one of the only vaccine manufacturers that didn’t completely tank in the stock market last week when FDA cuts were announced.
Over the last year their stock has been going down, but last week, it was up a little compared to companies like Moderna and Pfizer. Not by much, but it seemed weird the company actually announced a buy back of their own stock.
It would be interesting to know if the majority of shares were bought back before or after the giant crash. If it was before the crash, that would mean the company would be kind of fucked over by their own buy back. If the majority of shares were bought after the crash, that would be an odd choice but I guess if they mysteriously make a recovery it would be a win.
We did all the libertining in the 90s and 00s. They were pretty wild.
And you could argue that the overall permissiveness of society is a part of what the reactionary conservatives are violently railing against.
I just meant in terms of repeating the 1920s, we skipped all the cool shit they did and jumped straight into the depression. I guess the wealthy though still get their hedonism similar to the 20s
Also, I think it depends on where you were raised in the 90s/2000s. I grew up in the deep south going to a southern Baptist church, so the reactionary attitude while being a complete hypocrite behind closed doors is nothing new to me.
Probably also why it makes me so reactionary to the reactionaries. Like I cannot accept the shit that I finally escaped from is now trying to take over the globe, and some people actually think maybe it won’t be so bad/maybe they can reason with it if they fall in line.
Don’t forget the eldritch horror.
Any day now, Elon will announce that the real reason they need
GreenlandUltima Thule is so he can perform a ritual to awaken Azathoth and end the simulation.At least we believe in science and modern medicine
" The statement of the Soviet scientist’s is very interesting. Does he know what this alternative energy source will be? No, he simply has faith. Science will find a way. I hear revolutionary Marxists saying that the destruction of the environment, pollution, and radiation will be controlled. And I see them act on their words. Do they know how these things will be controlled? No, they simply have faith. Science will find a way. Industrialization is fine and necessary. How do they know this? Faith. Science will find a way. Faith of this sort has always been known in Europe as religion. Science has become the new European religion for both capitalists and Marxists; they are truly inseparable; they are part and parcel of the same culture. So, in both theory and practice, Marxism demands that non-European peoples give up their values, their traditions, their cultural experience altogether. We will all be industrialized science addicts in a Marxist society.
I do not believe that capitalism itself is really responsible for the situation in which American Indians have been declared a national sacrifice. No, it is the European tradition; European culture itself is responsible. Marxism is just the latest continuation of this tradition, not a solution to it. To ally with Marxism is to ally with the very same forces that declare us an acceptable cost.
There is another way. There is the traditional Lakota way and the ways of the other American Indian peoples. It is the way that knows that humans do not have the right to degrade Mother Earth, that there are forces beyond anything the European mind has conceived, that humans must be in harmony with all relations or the relations will eventually eliminate the disharmony. A lopsided emphasis on humans by humans — the European’s arrogance of acting as though they were beyond the nature of all related things — can only result in a total disharmony and a readjustment which cuts arrogant humans down to size, gives them a taste of that reality beyond their grasp or control and restores the harmony. There is no need for a revolutionary theory to bring this about; it’s beyond human control. The nature peoples of this planet know this and so they do not theorize about it. Theory is an abstract; our knowledge is real.
Distilled to it’s basic terms, European faith — including the new faith in science — equals a belief that man is God. Europe has always sought a Messiah, whether that be the man Jesus Christ or the man Karl Marx or the man Albert Einstein. American Indians know this to be truly absurd. Humans are the weakest of all creatures, so weak that other creatures are willing to give up their flesh that we may live. Humans are able to survive only though the exercise of rationality since they lack the abilities of other creatures to gain food through the use of fang and claw."
- Russel Means of the Lakota People (Full speech here)
“Of all the teachings we receive, this one is most important: Nothing belongs to you of what there is, of what you take, you must share.”
Chief Dan George
This is the kind of knowledge and wisdom I grew up with as a traditional Ojibway-Cree in northern Ontario. A common saying or idea that many of our Elders always reminded us is that ‘life is short, so terribly short’ and the thought that ‘what you gain and the wealth you own in this life means nothing because you can’t take it with you when you die’
Lots of circumstances are thankfully different. China’s not in a Civil War. America is limited by geography, where as Germany had lots of choices on who to invade. There’s no external cause for America’s economic woes, where as Germany was having their economy drained by outside forces (eg. France, Britain).
No, this won’t be as bad as WW2. Or rather the decisions are more distributed, so it’s less likely to be.
Oh fuck off, Germany ended where it was because of the great depression. What you mentioned are just aggravating factors. Take that Nazi propaganda elsewhere
But, to your other point, USA projects so much power, they could invade virtually anywhere and get away with it. Look at Iraq.
My bet is a test run on Cuba, because “Guantanamo is getting too small”. Then maybe a chunk of Mexico.
Exports from Germany to the nations it owed exceeded what could be produced by their economy, resulting in hyperinflation. Hence why they needed wheel barrows of money.
This is a historical fact that changed the west’s views on war reparations and resulted in the conclusion that nation building was a requirement of post war efforts (for stabilities sake).
WW1 is regarded as a major cause of WW2. It wasn’t a case of “The Great Depression happened then Germany decided to have a World War”.… No, the poverty hit them particularly hard and whenever there’s an external drain on manufacturing that outstrips the ability of a market to keep up, you always get hyperinflation.
Likewise there are other precedents for this in Zimbabwe’s hyperinflation and Venezuelas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1U7t47toB5E
So no, it’s not “Nazi propaganda”. It’s why rebuilding after war is more prioritized, and why war reparations aren’t as much anymore. We saw how that went in Germany.
