“I died for this shit?”
turned water into whine
Jesus condoned slavery. And that was directly used by Southern slave owners to justify chattal slavery in the US.
He could have very easily said, “hey guys, you shouldn’t own other humans as property,” but no (assuming he even existed).
Instead, he instructed people on how to treat their slaves.
I think you’re confusing Jesus with “Paul” who almost certainly wasn’t Paul in “his” later letters but it’s still generally true that the Bible is pro-slavery and heirarchy. Plus it’s taken as the indirect word of Christ anyways so same difference, really.
If you have the specific passage about Jeebus saying slavery is fine feel free to share, I love getting more ammo to hit theists with.
Luke 12:47-48.
Matthew 20:27.
And here I’ll just copy/paste this from the “the Bible and slavery” wiki:
The Bible says that Jesus healed the ill slave of a centurion and restored the cut off ear of the high priest’s slave. In his parables, Jesus referenced slavery: the prodigal son, ten gold coins, unforgiving tenant, and tenant farmers. Jesus also taught that he would give burdened and weary laborers rest. The Passion narratives are interpreted by the Catholic Church as a fulfillment of the Suffering Servant songs in Isaiah.
When questioned about the hierarchy of his followers, Jesus responds that “whoever would be first among you must be your slave” (Matthew 20:27).
Yes, most of the overtly pro-slavery stuff in the NT was Paul, but Jesus (I would say more than) tacitly condoned it.
Jesus was clearly immersed in a culture that included slavery. He could have very easily had, you know, done the right thing, and told his followers that owning other humans as property is bad. It seems like, if there was a loving god etc etc etc, that they wouldn’t want people to have slaves. And could have stopped it any time they liked. Fuck that…
I think that’s a bit of a stretch but I see where you’re coming from at least. Plus you always have to remember that the Romans just deleted shit they didn’t like, and they loved slavery.
Isn’t this idolatry? Your jealous god is gonna be, uh, jealous.
Religious people that vote republican are 100% hypocrites. Even you mom.
Especially your mom!
I’m glad my mom isn’t some hyper-religious hypocrite. She’s just your average low-information overly-proud bigot that couldn’t be bothered to vote until a black man had the audacity to be president.
What about my mom???
If god were real he’d be real pissed right now
Too bad he isn’t real.
Eh, I’m fine with the absence of a sky-wizard
I prefer it.
Problem here is that you seem to think (or assume others think) that religion is something other than a means to con dupes into giving up power and money. It’s pliable as fuck. It means nothing; it’s merely a means to an end.
You’d have to actually read the book to know that.
And people who actually read the Bible (and comprehend it), typically end up atheist.
Because it’s fucking awful.
There are a significant number of American Christians that have worked Trump into the religion.
Many prophesied his election victory, fueled insanity when this did not happen, culminating in… basically he is a kind of messiah, not literally Jesus, but doing his work, and he must do it before Jesus comes back.
If religion was real Trump would be the antichrist their bible warned them about.
As an ex Christian raised in a fundamentalist household who is now Atheist…
Fucking YUP!
He fits extremely well into the common rapture/antichrist narrative that I was raised in.
I grew up in that world too and he is exactly what those assholes used to rant and rave about while describing their Antichrist. Its funny how that turned out but I can’t say I’m surprised, they are really shitty people.
Yep. I’m not a perfect Christian, but I’m better than these freaks that are literally making Trump their idol. I don’t know how anyone could read and believe the Bible, then go follow this adulterous, lying, dishonest, rapist piece of garbage felon…
Well, yeah, he would be upset if Trump was an idol - but he’s the real deal because nobody’s been smote.
Old man Trump meets all the criteria of the anti-Christ and they are lining up to worship him.
To be fair, hordes of people believing in the Anti-Christ is also supposed to be one of the signs
I’ll never be able to take these people seriously again. What an absolute abomination of Christianity.
No it’s okay, I died and went to hell - when there Satan told me he would cheat the election and bring his vassal Trump to power. Then Jesus saved me and told me as long as I life my life in his light and prevent Trump from attaining power then I will be welcomed into heaven
Ah yes, Christians and their political beliefs based on the teachings of Christ such as… checks article preventing men from playing in women’s sports and making it illegal for “illegals” to vote. Which (of course) it already is.
Where does this obsession with “illegals” voting even come from? Have these people ever registered to vote or voted? You have to provide information and be on the voter rolls, it’s not like you can just walk in and vote.
My sister in law is a Republican, but doesn’t like Trump, but also buys in to a lot of what he says (her entire personality is “pro-life”)
Yesterday, she’s talking to my wife, who is one of those people that keeps her conversations on speaker when she’s in the house:
SIL: did you guys ever vote early
W: yep, last several elections
SIL: I think I’m going to test them and vote on my mail-in, early, and in person on Tuesday
Me: you will go to jail for that…
They just gobble up whatever they hear in their echo chamber. Nevermind all the Republicans who have gone to jail for voter fraud
Also SIL: well the people who died two years ago that vote won’t go to jail
W: yes but the people that voted in their place did…
I’m just so exhausted trying to understand remotely where they come from
Yeah and remember the part from the sermon on the mount where Jesus talks about grabbing women by the pussy? And how when you’re the son of god they’ll let you do it.
It’s a voter suppression tactic, because when turnout is low Republicans tend to win elections.
Paula White-Cain, the NAR-affiliated Florida pastor who served as Trump’s lead spiritual adviser during his presidency, warned her followers that Christians who didn’t support Trump will “have to stand accountable before God one day.”
Those will be the ones ascending to heaven according to your bible, Paula, while you stand with the literal Anti-Christ you fucking grifter.
I think at this point we can stop calling it Christianity because it obviously has nothing to do with a messiah religious character from the middle east.
Come now, modern day American Christianity has nothing in common with the Roman Catholic faith that spawned the Reformation in 1519, where the pope and his cardinals openly sold penances and salvation for money.
Evangelicapitalism?
Supply-side Jesus.
As opposed to all the times in the past where it had more to do with zealotry towards a figurehead (kings, saints, martyrs, etc) or outright heinous acts. This is what Christianity has always been. It was only ever about peace and love on paper. It’s always been about idolatry and control in practice.
The religion of American whiteness
No, this is Christianity. You don’t get to just disown large swathes of your religion because they make your hateful ideology look as bad as it actually is.
If anyone is “not really Christian,” it’s the ones who claim to be LGBTQ+ friendly.
In Jesus and John Wayne Kristin Du Mez explains it all and brings receipts.
The Christans yearn for false idols
Blessing someone or praying for them is not idolizing them you know. Religion is stupid anyway.
Don’t bother. He’s a disinformation spreading Tankie.
For pointing out your POS is like their POS?
Good thing I don’t give a flying fuck that I don’t contribute to the echo chamber and I don’t contribute to its subjugation in society
Yes you do. Making noise doesn’t change that.
Seems like you give lots of fucks, actually. Otherwise you wouldn’t spread so much disinformation.
Does she bang porn stars, cheat on her husband, sexually assault men, show appreciation for Hitler, stamp her name on cheap Chinese bibles, claim to jave been personally saved/chosen by God (who apparently gave zero fucks about the actual Christian who died) , demonize the poor and those who seek shelter and aid, or just generally live a life of sin and greed while never setting foot in church other than for photo ops during riots that he caused?
Because that’s the part where i have trouble watching a bunch of Christians give their prayers and blessings to him instead of just about any other random stranger who’d likely be far more deserving.
It’s like watching an anti-Christ movie play out in real life.
Just as cringe in a still photo.
The difference here is when you look at literally everything else each of these groups says outside of these individual snapshots, it becomes instantly clear what the difference is.
Looks like my user tag of “bad faith. don’t waste time” on this guy was accurate.
What’s weird is that Trump fits the definition of the anti Christ that I was given, when I was growing up as a born again Christian.
They got enough people convinced it was real that they made it into reality
The weird fixation Trump has with the song YMCA is hilarious. It is literally one of the gayest songs ever recorded and he plays it for his cultists to sing and dance along everywhere he goes.
He has fond memories of nose-blasting coke with Epstein, with YMCA playing in the background of the club.
Got to admit, that’s got to be the fattest, baldest, tiniest hooved bronzed calf I’ve ever seen.
I watched an undercover video of a church service once and they essentially replaced the 10 commandments with 10 Christian nationalism statements.
We need to launch a new fricking crusade against these antichrist worshippers
Florida’s Bishop Kelvin Cobaris, the former president of the African American Council of Christian Clergy, said, “I want to tell every African American in here ‘Don’t be a afraid to lose your Black card…vote to defend religious freedom, vote to defend Israel!’” Pastor Sam Rodriguez, president of the National Hispanic Christian Leadership Conference, said the enemy is “trying to kill our children in the classroom.”
Idiots.
Lmao they’re probably the same ones killing the children in classrooms. It amazes me how delusional one can get
What a bunch of sociopaths.
