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    Go for it. I’d love to see the RNC pay all of Trump’s fees. Before a dime goes into marketing a single candidate, make sure this paragon of Americanism is protected. Nothing is more important than pouring money into this sinkhole.

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      I’m in disagreement. I may be naive but I still believe the Republican Party needs to separate itself from Trump.

      Sure, I’d love to see the Republican Party crumble; but because the people, independently and democratically, acknowledge its failure to govern and uphold American ideals.

      By supporting the party’s funding of Trump’s legal fees, you’re supporting the idea that his court cases are “political persecution”. And I mean, aren’t we talking about the party of Personal Responsibility?

      I think the RNC should be putting money towards a viable alternative. The RNC should be joining the DNC in fighting the MAGA party. Shit, the DNC should be putting out money for a viable alternative right now too. The power and corruption these two committees hold undemocratic and destructive. Which brings me to my soapbox chant for Ranked Choice Voting.

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        I can’t fix what’s broken with the Republican party. But I’d be happy to quicken it’s demise so that a more sensible conservative party might emerge. I’m not a Democrat by ideology - at least I don’t agree with them in all cases, but it feel obligated to oppose the current Republican party at every level.

        I like having choices at the ballot box and right now I feel I have none. Excise the tumor so that it can become healthy.

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          But I’d be happy to quicken it’s demise so that a more sensible conservative party might emerge.

          I might be pessimistic, but I don’t see the sensible part of the party coming out on top in that fight. They’ve lost ground every step so far.

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            perhaps, but why? Why do all the sensible people have to lose to the fucking insane?

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              Something is clearly broken with America, and everyone who isnt an insufferable policy wonk all know that it’s the neoliberal system we have organized around that is the problem.

              The divide comes because conservative elements cannot accept that free market capitalism has failed at improving life for anyone but the ultra-wealthy, so they blame undesirables and minority boogiemen because they have been conditioned to beleive that socialism will lead to bread lines and technological stagnation. Fascism is capitalism’s last ditch effort to save itself.

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              Probably because in that party, anyone with a modicum of rational thought and who is not driven by emotional drivers (like racism and dreams of a xtian caliphate) is a very tiny minority. Sure, there might be a few left who are just there for the tax cuts and the corporate handouts; they are probably the elitist thought leaders and/or the donor class funding the movement/party.

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          I don’t even know what a sensible conservative party that /isn’t/ where the Democratic Party is already at would look like, TBH. So many in the party already adheres - even still - to neoliberal orthodoxy on matters economic.

          I’m almost exactly the opposite - I’d love to have a serious alternative to the left of the Democratic Party and the end of the Republican Party. Both parties have gone to the right; leaving the progressive majority of Americans (on the issues) out in the cold. Money in politics ruins everything and of course, only the donors really get the policy they want.

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            It would be interesting if democrats absorbed the conservatives and the left wing broke off. It just doesn’t feel very likely.

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        Spending money on orange Jesus’ legal expenses instead of elections is a great way to build a wall and have the true believers pay for it. This is the fastest way to disconnect that cult leader and reset the party

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          Is it? It seems like it’s just enforcing his leadership of the party. If you think the outcome is that it’s going to lead Republicans to vote for Democrats, I’ll believe it when I see it.

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        The cons always were MAGA. For as long as I can remember. Sure, they put a nice veneer on it that /mostly/ held, although the ugliness of things would shine through in the words/deeds of Nixon, Raygun, Bush the Lesser, etc. And never mind their unholy rhetoric on their hate radio and Faux.

        The Republican Party is full of Republicans. That means they are maga and trying to somehow tease these unicorn “principled conservatives” who aren’t primarily just motivated by racism and/or dreams of theocracy out from the con movement is going to be a fool’s errand. They are probably 10% or less of the con movement, possibly less. The rest is all racism/white nationalists and/or xtian talibangelical types; i.e., “maga”.

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    So you’re saying we can separate the idiots from their money AND guarantee none of that money goes to GOP campaigning?

    Sounds like a good deal to me.

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      Imagine if the justice system worked and he was declared an enemy of the state as attempting to steal the presidency should be a crime against the state.

      Paying any legal fees would be considered giving aid to an enemy of the state. Aka, an act of treason

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      Does it matter that the GOP donors will pay his legal fees? That just means less money to campaign.

      Im not sure it should be legal though. I am no longer a democrat so I have nothing on the line, but I’d still be frustrated if Biden was using DNC funds for personal shit

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          LOL so you are telling me he is actively committing crimes in the open that can be investigated and potentially tried in the coming years? Can this man even get out of bed in the morning without committing a crime?

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    This may be the one and only time I can say I whole heartedly agree with a trump. Milk the coffers baby, milk 'em dry!

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    I mean go ahead. Let Trump empty their coffers, so they can’t run the next election either. Just sounds like Republicans screwing each other, so I’m all for it.

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    Well you know there is a way to find that out for sure, a vote of all members. And then we will see him tank not only himself, his children, all the businesses he has touched, But also the RNC!

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    No, please don’t. I’m just a teary-eyed snowflake liberal and if they did this, it would just devastate me.

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    I’d like to see them do that too.

    Please do that.

    Drain the entire war chest.

    Not a single dollar for ad buys anywhere in the country.

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      Fuck 'em all. They want to foot the bill, they can, and then look around in slack jawed confusion for where everyone else’s campaign funds went.

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    While it would be great to bleed the RNC dry, part of the problem is how much free publicity the media gives this guy.

    In 2020, they gave him a ridiculous amount of free attention.

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      It doesn’t matter. Minds were made up long ago on Trump himself, it’s even literally a rematch.

      Trump can drain the RNC dry, with any luck they lose Congress seats by being outspent.

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    The only voters who don’t want that are the GOP mega donors.

    Everyone else seems to be on board, I’ll even bring the shovels and protective gear. Chucking all that cash into the furnace is going to be hottttt.