If you don’t have air conditioning, you live in Alaska or you’re just crazy.
*Northern Sweden
Yeah fuck my neighbour let’s flood his windows with more heat, I’m cool
I love living in a country/part of the country that doesn’t really need AC. Today is the hottest day this week peaking at 27°c but the rest of the week is like 23°c. Perfect weather to go to the beach to cool off.
Dude climate change demands these. Have them powered by solar panels and its a win/win
They might have meant that. Americans using climate change to bully them to install a mini split.
Any energy from solar going to AC means solar energy not going to the rest of the house.
Unless you’ve got a battery to charge, or are otherwise constantly running something that takes more than a solar panel generates, most of it probably isn’t going to the rest of the house anyway.
And your point is?
Better building and urbanism should be the preferred solution. And solar panels can and should be installed even without AC
I agree with you, we should be building with higher urban density. Even in the country, build apartment blocks in the middle of farmland that can be efficiently heated or cooled. And the inhabitants harvest their own food in the vicinity instead of relying on imports. The solution isn’t for individuals to get solar to power their AC, it’s still way too many resources and embedded energy. A little social engineering, mild gulagification and we could easily solve climate change.
But that is no way to attain or maintain power or wealth, so we won’t be doing any of that shit. You better read some Machiavelli you fool! How dare you suggest things like that here? 🤭 🫠 🥵 👍
solar produces more in the summer, when an AC is more needed
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Well you messed it up anon. You’ll need a bigger antenna for good wifi ac
Nah, that’s the antenna to watch TV for the TV watching license.
I have heard that they recently passed a bill for having a toaster license you have to use to use your own damn toaster.
I heard about the TV Watching License from my boyfriend the other day. I honestly thought he was joking, what a way to find out he wasn’t.
Same with me. Literally I thought it was a joke. Although, I AM joking about the toaster license. It’s a refrence to a clip from the 2012 libertarian presidential debate (if you did not know, of course).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PcllE7fx8-I
My guess: american guests expect 70s temps or AC. Homey runs airbnb, guests want it and go to his competition that offers it, therefore he’s bullied.
poor fuckin’ baby.
Much of Europe is getting hotter. AC is literally a life-saving technology on extremely hot days. No, it’s not mere “comfort”. Old people, in particular, are at high risk.
And it’s not like Europe is completely blameless when it comes to global warming, either.
come on, most of the world have worst temperatures and no AC
edit : yes you are right and it is a problem. But I do not know if AC everywhere is the solution. Building viable living spaces and changing our way of life probably is.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/08/1152766
“In the European region, heat stress is the leading cause of climate-related death in the region,” he said. “Temperature extremes such as those we’re experiencing at the moment are really exacerbating chronic conditions, including cardiovascular, respiratory and cerebro-vascular diseases, mental health and diabetes-related conditions. The extreme heat that we’re experiencing is a particular problem for elderly people, especially those living alone. It can also place an additional burden on pregnant women.”
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On 22 July 2024, the daily global average temperature reached a new record high of 17.16°C, according to the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service. On 23 July, the preliminary value was 17.15°C. On 21 July, the temperature record was 17.09°C. All three days were warmer than the previous record of 17.08°C, set only last year on 6 July 2023.
This is a real and growing problem. Stop sticking your head in the sand.
Yes sorry I was just snarky because finally AC globally still heats the world, so to keep our elders alive let’s burn the world’s babies
americans have bullied me into installing this
(not so) cool story bro.
That’s not a great place for a compressor, direct exposure to the weather means they are unable to exchange heat as efficiently. Why’d they put it up there?
Lack of space is the primary reason for putting it on a roof. It will get direct sunlight and there will random temperature differences so efficiency will never really be perfect. The condenser coils are also covered and it’s not open like a ground unit would be.
They could put it in the shade, and that would be nice. I am curious where they should put it in this case…
I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those “American style” ground units in Europe. They all look like the one in the picture and are predominantly wall or roof mounted.
They exist, but primarily for heavy duty or professional use - think office spaces or supermarkets. Most homes are fine with wall units.
LOL no. Where do you live? Sure isn’t south of the Mason-Dixon line or southwest of the Rockies. Only people in warm areas without central HVAC are in old houses where no one has been able to afford the installation.
lol. you failed to fully grasp what the other comments were getting at, and still you went in strong with a confident and aggressive tone. I commend you 👏👏👏
I wouldn’t want to assume, but do you identify as American by any chance?
“I don’t think I’ve ever seen one of those “American style” ground units in Europe.”
Indeed, Europe is not very close to The Rocky Mountains Sherlock.
Also it’s not a matter of if that hole in the roof for the tubes will leak, but when. Don’t put holes in your roof.
A sprawling yard to put things on is a very american thing.
It could be a thing for any rural house in countries that have the land for it.
Yes, but the vast majority of Europeans are not rural – and unlike Americans, they aren’t suburban, either.
You and the commenter above are blowing my mind. How much land do you think an HVAC unit requires?! You simply install it on the north side of the house/apartment/whatever, out of the sun.
I know it doesn’t require much land, but there isn’t any land available in population dense areas. Roof installations would be required for row houses and situations like that.
Read the comments above mine. FFS, they’re thinking AC units require “A sprawling yard” or rural houses with lots of land. If ya got 1sq/m, you got room.
Sure, if you’re downtown or something, but my understanding is that most people don’t live downtown, but instead just outside of urban areas.
The OP is about a different country, it’s possible ‘most people’ in that place do live ‘downtown’. But even if it’s not most, still there’s a whole lot of people in every country who live in bigger density situations, often there is no ground level outside space free for new installations.
Sure. I can’t really place where they’re from given the picture, but I’m guessing something in the Americas south of the US? If so, there’s probably plenty of space.
But yeah, it’s possible, I just think in many areas, a meter square pad is doable.
Say what? They sit on 1 sq. meter slabs. Are you thinking HVAC units are the size of RVs?!
They also need clearance, they’re supposed to have like 15’ free above them and a couple feet on each side
Ah yes, let me put a 1 sq. meter concrete slab on my French balcony.
Ok and where are you gonna put 20 of those next to an apartment building
This doesn’t look like an apartment building.
And the apartments near me have them just behind the complex, usually under the overhang from the roof. If you have a balcony or whatever, it’ll be just below/next to that. Most apartments are only 2-3 floors anyway, and there’s plenty of horizontal space to fit one per unit, or ideally you just include HVAC into the rent so you don’t need as many units. The apartment I lived in had trees next to it, so they stuck them between the trees and the complex.
a heat pump? an aircon? an antenna? 😖
A roof
Panama
Donkey!
John American actually invented those, back when he created the cheeseburger.
This was before Thomas Ladder
Yes I’ve heard they’re very poor over there
Judging by (what looks like?) the slate roof, I’m guessing this in in the UK?. So its probably the AC unit. (I’m sure slate roofs exist outside the UK, I’m just guessing.)
It looks to be corrugated iron. Corrugated iron would be a really weird roofing material in the UK, as it’s terrible for insulation. Also if he was from the UK it would be on the news because no one has air conditioning. It’s really hard to even find someone who knows how to install it.
It can’t be anywhere in southern Europe because they’d already have air conditioning, could be France or Germany though they tend not to have aircon by default.
Lots of office buildings in the UK have air con, but I agree that it would be difficult to find a tradesman to install one unless your brother in law works at Wates or something.
It could be a barn conversion air bnb, because what idiot in the UK would put that on a roof they were planning on living under? But the contract looks way too urban for that. Makes no sense.
A Yagi?
Do these pe*ple not know window units exist???
Those only really work for American style up down windows. In Germany and most eu countries a different style are used. They are hinged on both the bottom and the side and you can choose which set of hinges to use. Very useful but not compatible with American style window AC units. If you google for “German window” you’ll see the memes.
if you google “german window”
That sounds suspiciously like a sex act, not falling for that one!
Here is your “German Window Porn”
I came.
Very different to my German porn window…
Woah, Woah! Better NSFW flag that!
I’ve seen the memes I just don’t understand how no one has come up with a window unit that can be properly mounted to them. Window units have been around for decades and not one engineering company has capitalized the idea?
I think the engineering would be so complex and so particular to a window type/size, that it’s just not worth it. At some point, installing an external unit and wiring/ducting through the wall is actually the simpler solution.
It would have to be a pretty novel (and likely much more complex, less reliable, more costly, etc.) design to attach to a thing that has multiple degrees of freedom as opposed to an immobile window sill with a built in clamping mechanism. Also worth noting that window-mounted a units often introduce some gaps in the insulation that the window would otherwise provide. In America, no biggie on that, we build with double pane windows primarily and many existing buildings even still have single pane windows. The net loss of insulation (if it is even a loss) is easy to justify/mitigate with some cheap treatments like foam inserts. For European triple pane windows, the loss of insulation is still not a huge deal (especially if you account for luften), but it is yet another factor that discourages market penetration of a hypothetical window mounting solution. Window units have been around for decades because they are successful at taking advantage of the nature of American windows. Because European windows and building construction have a fundamentally different nature, it’s not surprising that this approach has not penetrated that market. It’s not as simple as capitalizing on the original idea, it would essentially be coming up with an entirely novel idea that may or (more likely) may not be viable
This guy’s European roof looks better than the prettiest American houses
American eyes can’t bear the blinding light of the truth and they scurry back into the gooncave.
As an American, I’m offended by this characterization…
I don’t have a gooncave.
We can’t even afford a cave to goon in 😔
Home is where the heart is; cave is where the goon is.
Hey man, are you okay?
Are any of us okay?
no
Is that a European roof? I haven’t seen corrugated iron anywhere there, but then again, I haven’t been everywhere in Europe.
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