They’re a vacation where everything is taken care of for you. Find a spot, read a book, get all the drinks you want. Need food? Walk over to the chosen food place. Even with thousands of people on board, you can generally find a quiet spot with drinks.
There’s all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I’ve found they’re generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it’s cheaper. I don’t know why.
I’d only go anymore if it’s a trip that would show things you generally can’t see other ways, such as the coast of Alaska or Norway, or going through the Panama Canal. Caribbean cruises are an absolute waste.
In addition to the stuff the other person said, they can also dodge labor laws and pay people substandard wages, providing inadequate health& safety benefits, and get you close to a high-value location without paying for real estate or contributing to the local tax base.
There’s all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I’ve found they’re generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it’s cheaper. I don’t know why.
Because you can get away with following very few regulations if you’re in international waters, and pollute the shit out of the environment. Cruises are horrible, environmentally speaking.
My wife’s family loves cruises. I have made it very clear that I am morally opposed and will not join them on one, but her mom has tried to schedule a cruise as a family vacation anyway at least twice. I think she now finally understands I’m not going to be convinced by being told how much fun they are, after I outright said, “I understand they’re awesome, I’m sure I would love it, but I am not going to support that industry and its practices.”
At one point I honestly think she thought if she just got it scheduled and everyone else was onboard I’d come along. Fortunately she never got that far.
(I promise she’s actually a pretty cool person, I love my mother-in-law very much, but she can be stubborn.)
there is absolutely nothing i find appealing about going to a theme park that’s been crammed onto a boat and being surrounded by rich tourists and screaming kids. and of course someone picks up some exotic flu strain on an excursion and now the entire ship is sick.
Apart from the terrible environmental effects, they’re a blast. I’m not in for slides and shit, but the full experience is generally really enjoyable. If you like to travel, it’s also a good way to trial destinations before committing to a long vacation somewhere.
Trial what destinations exactly? Arrive at Island port. Hecklers everywhere. Arrive at next Island. More hecklers. Rinse and repeat.
“Damn, I had a blast!”
I’m telling you, a Euro-trip on rail will net you more adventure and better pacing with vastly more interesting destination. Possibly even comfort, if you take sleeper trains.
I’m hoping they’ll ban these cruise ships from the Mediterranean altogether.
What you explained is what I’d expect someone who’s never been on a cruise before to describe a cruise. Sure, there’s hecklers at the port immediately off the boat. Walk out of that area and it goes away, like every tourist destination.
Most cruise stops that I’ve been on have been around 8 hours, which is ample time to experience a bit of a location. I have only been on two cruises, so I’m by no means a seasoned traveler.
Unfortunately, the Caribbean doesn’t have a rail system between the islands, so boating is the main option. While most cruises aren’t luxury, and to get a suite is $$$, they are comfortable rides, almost assuredly more comfortable than a train, barring rough seas, which I’ve experienced once, and it wasn’t that bad. They are slower than trains, but they have a dozen floors, 100 bars, pools, live entertainment, and a plethora of other things. I have enjoyed some of my at seas days more than some stops. Finally, vastly more interesting destinations is extremely subjective. There are cruises that go all over the world, so the number and choices of destinations is huge.
I’m not going to argue you least point. Like I first mentioned, they’re terrible for the environment. All of my words above are just in response to, “why would anyone get one one of these”, not to defend the existence of cruises.
What is a heckler? Like the people who interrupt stand ups? I went on two cruises with my family when I was a kid. And I can assure you the only stand-up anyone experiences is on the ship in between ports.
I think they’re referring to hawkers, or people on the streets harassing you to buy something. I don’t know why everyone here is calling them hecklers and not confused by that.
Dunno what you mean with hecklers but you arrive at a part, tour the city, go eat somewhere, you know, spend time in the destination city and then you move on.
I don’t know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn’t enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn’t tell you much about the place.
I suppose it’s another way to visit, but it’s odd to me.
What’s wrong with floating? The boats are huge. Unless it’s rough seas, you don’t know that you’re on water.
All of the shipping centers are in lower floors dedicated to shopping. Don’t want to buy anything? Just don’t go to floor 7, it’s that easy to avoid. If you get seasick, then maybe cruises aren’t for you, but motion sickness medicine is available for those that do have the ailment. If pulled off the side of a catamaran in Hawaii, which is when I found out that I do get motion sickness. That’s never been an issue in a cruise for me. Again, they are so large, it’s like not being on a boat at all.
All of you arguments stem down to, “why would someone go on a trip that they don’t want to go on?” The answer is, don’t, but there are a ton of reasons that people do. I don’t go to casinos and gamble, because they’re dirty and I don’t like gambling.
A week long cruise can be had all in for less than a couple thousand bucks. Not the cheapest vacation, but not the most expensive. One can spend way more depending on the room and any extras spent.
I mean the danger of capsizing in a cruise ship is vanishingly tiny, and the Navy has similarly top heavy vessels, like aircraft carriers. They have massive keels, and their displacement is so huge that rough seas mean almost nothing to them. You’re far more likely to die in millions of more common activities than to a cruise ship capsizing. I don’t really see how taking statistics is helping your argument at all, as statistics are on the cruise’s side. Driving or riding in a car is far more dangerous.
Now, cruise ships suck for other reasons, like their exploitation of poor countries and massive carbon emissions. Arguing against cruise ships from a statistical safety standpoint is like arguing against airplanes because they could crash, regardless of how likely. The cruise ship excursions and activities on board are more dangerous than their seaworthiness.
You’re right, I don’t have an anxiety disorder. However, I do know the ecological harm they cause. That doesn’t make them not fun. Lots of fun things aren’t good for the environment.
I cannot for the life of me understand how someone could willingly boars one of those monstrosities
If you are talking about the shape (wider on the top than on the bottom), it’s not really a problem.
If you are talking about any other thing, you are probably right.
Yeah I mean there’s a laundry list but that didn’t even cross my mind.
They’re a vacation where everything is taken care of for you. Find a spot, read a book, get all the drinks you want. Need food? Walk over to the chosen food place. Even with thousands of people on board, you can generally find a quiet spot with drinks.
There’s all-inclusive resorts, yes, and I’ve found they’re generally more expensive than cruises. If you make your resort hotel float, it’s cheaper. I don’t know why.
I’d only go anymore if it’s a trip that would show things you generally can’t see other ways, such as the coast of Alaska or Norway, or going through the Panama Canal. Caribbean cruises are an absolute waste.
In addition to the stuff the other person said, they can also dodge labor laws and pay people substandard wages, providing inadequate health& safety benefits, and get you close to a high-value location without paying for real estate or contributing to the local tax base.
Cruises are bad. Period.
Because you can get away with following very few regulations if you’re in international waters, and pollute the shit out of the environment. Cruises are horrible, environmentally speaking.
My wife’s family loves cruises. I have made it very clear that I am morally opposed and will not join them on one, but her mom has tried to schedule a cruise as a family vacation anyway at least twice. I think she now finally understands I’m not going to be convinced by being told how much fun they are, after I outright said, “I understand they’re awesome, I’m sure I would love it, but I am not going to support that industry and its practices.”
At one point I honestly think she thought if she just got it scheduled and everyone else was onboard I’d come along. Fortunately she never got that far.
(I promise she’s actually a pretty cool person, I love my mother-in-law very much, but she can be stubborn.)
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Is this Loss?
Wtf why are you commenting in braille?
Spaces makes foolls of us all.
How are they supposed to read that if they’re blind, smh
With their fingers. Why do you think we invented touch screens.
Because computers were horny
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oh my god first ever recorded event of ASCII art in lemmy
Letters, punctuation, and spaces are just about the only ASCII in that art.
there is absolutely nothing i find appealing about going to a theme park that’s been crammed onto a boat and being surrounded by rich tourists and screaming kids. and of course someone picks up some exotic flu strain on an excursion and now the entire ship is sick.
thanks, but i’ll pass
Not even just exotic. They’re known for being germ vectors, in general.
Apart from the terrible environmental effects, they’re a blast. I’m not in for slides and shit, but the full experience is generally really enjoyable. If you like to travel, it’s also a good way to trial destinations before committing to a long vacation somewhere.
Trial what destinations exactly? Arrive at Island port. Hecklers everywhere. Arrive at next Island. More hecklers. Rinse and repeat.
“Damn, I had a blast!”
I’m telling you, a Euro-trip on rail will net you more adventure and better pacing with vastly more interesting destination. Possibly even comfort, if you take sleeper trains.
I’m hoping they’ll ban these cruise ships from the Mediterranean altogether.
What you explained is what I’d expect someone who’s never been on a cruise before to describe a cruise. Sure, there’s hecklers at the port immediately off the boat. Walk out of that area and it goes away, like every tourist destination.
Most cruise stops that I’ve been on have been around 8 hours, which is ample time to experience a bit of a location. I have only been on two cruises, so I’m by no means a seasoned traveler.
Unfortunately, the Caribbean doesn’t have a rail system between the islands, so boating is the main option. While most cruises aren’t luxury, and to get a suite is $$$, they are comfortable rides, almost assuredly more comfortable than a train, barring rough seas, which I’ve experienced once, and it wasn’t that bad. They are slower than trains, but they have a dozen floors, 100 bars, pools, live entertainment, and a plethora of other things. I have enjoyed some of my at seas days more than some stops. Finally, vastly more interesting destinations is extremely subjective. There are cruises that go all over the world, so the number and choices of destinations is huge.
I’m not going to argue you least point. Like I first mentioned, they’re terrible for the environment. All of my words above are just in response to, “why would anyone get one one of these”, not to defend the existence of cruises.
What is a heckler? Like the people who interrupt stand ups? I went on two cruises with my family when I was a kid. And I can assure you the only stand-up anyone experiences is on the ship in between ports.
I think they’re referring to hawkers, or people on the streets harassing you to buy something. I don’t know why everyone here is calling them hecklers and not confused by that.
And coming from a well off family, why is it wrong for me to buy stuff?
Not saying that is the argument you’re making/defending. Just don’t see a problem with helping people out.
I was just explaining a misunderstanding, that being heckler vs hawker… I think you’ve replied to the wrong comment?
I think I did too. Please accept my apologies!
It’s not wrong, but a lot of people hate being harassed until they buy something.
No disagreement here.
It’s all about the attitude you have going into the trip, my friend. There will be hecklers wherever you go, if you set your mind to look for them.
Including Lemmy.
Dunno what you mean with hecklers but you arrive at a part, tour the city, go eat somewhere, you know, spend time in the destination city and then you move on.
You don’t have time though. They typically only stay there for a day.
That’s plenty of time for a quick visit though?
I don’t know. When I go to a city as a tourist, I typically stay for 4 to 7 days before moving elsewhere, so that I at least have a very vague idea of what the place is like. One afternoon isn’t enough time to do anything, you can see a museum and have a coffee, which is nice, but doesn’t tell you much about the place.
I suppose it’s another way to visit, but it’s odd to me.
You’re there to visit it, you don’t need to learn the whole city lol
What is enjoyable about a floating, overcrowded shopping center that makes you seasick?
What’s wrong with floating? The boats are huge. Unless it’s rough seas, you don’t know that you’re on water.
All of the shipping centers are in lower floors dedicated to shopping. Don’t want to buy anything? Just don’t go to floor 7, it’s that easy to avoid. If you get seasick, then maybe cruises aren’t for you, but motion sickness medicine is available for those that do have the ailment. If pulled off the side of a catamaran in Hawaii, which is when I found out that I do get motion sickness. That’s never been an issue in a cruise for me. Again, they are so large, it’s like not being on a boat at all.
All of you arguments stem down to, “why would someone go on a trip that they don’t want to go on?” The answer is, don’t, but there are a ton of reasons that people do. I don’t go to casinos and gamble, because they’re dirty and I don’t like gambling.
Skill issue
you guys can afford these things?
A week long cruise can be had all in for less than a couple thousand bucks. Not the cheapest vacation, but not the most expensive. One can spend way more depending on the room and any extras spent.
I’d be concerned about the tusks, myself
To crowded for me.
I’ve been invited on a few cruises.
I was in the navy, and immediately launch into a tirade about how top heavy and unsafe those things are.
“Well it’s never been a problem for us”
Okie dokie, I took statistics, so hard pass all the same :)
I mean the danger of capsizing in a cruise ship is vanishingly tiny, and the Navy has similarly top heavy vessels, like aircraft carriers. They have massive keels, and their displacement is so huge that rough seas mean almost nothing to them. You’re far more likely to die in millions of more common activities than to a cruise ship capsizing. I don’t really see how taking statistics is helping your argument at all, as statistics are on the cruise’s side. Driving or riding in a car is far more dangerous.
Now, cruise ships suck for other reasons, like their exploitation of poor countries and massive carbon emissions. Arguing against cruise ships from a statistical safety standpoint is like arguing against airplanes because they could crash, regardless of how likely. The cruise ship excursions and activities on board are more dangerous than their seaworthiness.
Cruises would be pretty interesting if once out at sea they released 30 wild boar.
What about 50 of them? Or perhaps some number between those two numbers, inclusively?
Depends, are the passengers permitted to bring assault-style rifles with high-capacity magazines?
They’d probably drown fairly quickly though. Unless they were Saltwater Boar.
Because they’re fun.
Says someone with no anxiety disorder or awareness of the ecological harm they wreak
You’re right, I don’t have an anxiety disorder. However, I do know the ecological harm they cause. That doesn’t make them not fun. Lots of fun things aren’t good for the environment.
Look at those water slides
It’s not just willingly, people pay an exorbitant amount for the “privilege”…