• Thatuserguy@lemmy.world
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    I had this argument with my mom the other day. She agrees private healthcare is a broken system and needs to be fixed, but you bring up public healthcare and she’ll fight tooth and nail to argue against it. It’s insane. Literal “no take, only throw” tier mindset

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      Propaganda. People have been told their whole lives that socialism is pure evil, nevermind what socialism actually is. Public healthcare is socialism, therefore it’s evil.

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    Believe it or not, some of the people cheering him on actually just like chaos and violence and don’t have any deeper politics.

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    They believe in a free market but also believe the free market is currently corrupt.

    It’s like people who believe in monarchy but hate their corrupt baron.

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    They’re very stupid. Most adults have reading comprehension below a 6th grade level

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    Because they don’t realize that it will affect them. They think “this won’t hurt me because I actually need Medicare. I’m going to stick it to all the freeloaders, of which I am not one.”

    But just like being in a car, you aren’t stuck in traffic, you are traffic.

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      Also, the media is very owned by the top 1%. They would lose some money if healthcare became single payer.

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    My wife explains it like this:

    Racism.

    White voters will cut off their own nose before granting health care to black and brown people.

  • IninewCrow@lemmy.ca
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    The politics of the ignorant.

    People want a world where they are rulers over everyone and everything and often many people just can’t understand that there are other living, independent, free thinking individuals in the world. Most people see other humans as a hindrance to their own enjoyment of life.

    They love Luigi Mangione because he is against the private health system that is stealing their money … but at the same time they like Trump because he is against any socialized sharing of government resources - they believe that government should help only them or the worthy and not just everyone, especially those they think are unworthy.

    It’s a belief system that is based on the individual and only the individual at the cost of everyone else.

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    My parents hate the insurance companies. But they’ve been convinced by the right wing that the government would handle things worse.

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      Which is stupid because the government already provides the majority of healthcare in this country and is doing it quite well. Medicare has a 90+% approval rate from the people who use it and it is far more efficient than private insurance.

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    No one is immune to propaganda and the top 1% owns approximately 95% of the media.

    The average Joe is too busy living their life to try to understand anything beyond the basics.

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      Some of us do seem to be immune to the propaganda, though. I’ve heard so much anti-union propaganda. I’ve heard so much anti-Socialist rhetoric, anti-woke bullshit, etc. I was educated and employed in a red state.

      Yet, here I am telling you that Socialism is the truth. Unions are awesome. I support just about any marginalized groups rights. Many of my friends and family feel the same even though they were educated and indoctrinated in the same system.

      There is a lot more to it than just propaganda. I would say that tribalism plays a larger role. When someone is born into a conservative family, surrounded by conservative citizens, it becomes a lot easier to just agree with the status quo in the area to fit in. I can tell you, from my experience, that I was not very popular in school, due to being a dirty leftist with empathy.

      I will say that my immediate family is not religious, not conservative, and they are very open minded, loving and empathetic people. This is probably the main reason I was immune to the propaganda.

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    Because they think: if I have to suffer, everyone has to suffer. If someone hurts someone, I support it because I want to hurt people.

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    People have been taught to fear single payer healthcare. Money equals speech and the health industry has plenty of it. They control the narrative since the rich and powerful have bought up the media companies. They also control our lawmakers with unlimited money via citizens United; putting roadblocks in place for any sort of fundamental reform.

    People vote against their interests as a function of a corrupt oligarchy running the show. People are getting played and just don’t know any better / have a limited world-view.