It’s not like any candidate was actually good but they did pick the worst one.

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    It’s funny, they say fascism happens in slow motion and no one expects it to actually happen until it’s to late.

    I really feel like we’re watching it happen in America.

    Everyone’s laughing at Trump’s stupidity while the systems to stop fascism are slowly destroyed behind the scenes.

    Feels like he’s just a distraction from what’s actually happening.

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      No one’s laughing at trump’s shit anymore. Anyone with at least a lukewarm iq and even a cursory knowledge of history can see his fascism. It’s just the system is rigged to give regressive areas more voting power

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          Eh, that’s not what he said. Sure, yes, he said those words, but if you watch the whole thing it’s clear he just can’t talk like a normal person. He uses words that cause outrage because they get people riled up, and then he goes on to say what he really means. Although who knows man, he’s a total liar, and nothing he says has any value anyways.

          What got me about that video was the end. He said “We were doing so well. And we were coming together, and coming together, and it was a beautiful thing. And we’re going to do that again.”. So he personally acknowledged that we were doing well as a country, and more united, and then he came along and started tearing all that down. We’ve been going downhill ever since. His entire motto “make America great again” is built on a lie that he just acknowledged right here at the end of the clip. It was already great. It stopped being great when he wouldn’t shut his fat fucking anus mouth.

          But I can’t even really evaluate the things he says without sounding like I’m contradicting myself, because the things he says are contradictory from one statement to another. Idk why I even bothered.

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            They don’t say shit in good faith my friend. His whole thing is to say stuff that makes his followers react and exhausts anyone trying to pin him down on anything. Contrary to what anyone thinks he isn’t fooling anyone. His rube followers are just happy he’s upsetting everyone and wont hold him to a single thing. Everyone else is just tired of his shtick.

            The GOP is done veiling their ideas and power plays but it’s not like they are being honest. The political equivalent of yelling jibberish at the top of your lungs when someone asks you a simple question. Sad part is the media feeds on it somehow.

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        complaining about the rise of fascism

        infers anyone who’s not going to vote fascism away is a dunce

        mentions lukewarm iq

        mentioning iq at all

        guess there’s just a predetermined, genetic based, level of intelligence hey mate? scratch a liberal, a fascist bleeds, comrades.

        I’m not American, I dont get a vote, I laugh at trump, and all of America, to keep myself from crying.

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      Yup, not to say that my country is doing much better or anything, but looking over at the USA it’s almost comical how extremely clear their decline into fascism and decay is. It’d almost be funny if it weren’t so serious.

      Unfortunately it’s not hard to see a future where the rest of the world have to fight a war against some future form of christiofascist white supremacist USA.

      Not next year or the year after of course, but within my lifetime for sure. People forget how quickly some nations go from progressive and democratic to straight up Third Reich.

      It takes a shockingly short amount of time once the slow burn has laid the ground work over the initial decades. The slow burn we’re watching now.

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        Yeah but this slow burn is already like ten years old. The fascists demand retribution for us daring to elect Obama. As soon as they saw the light at the end of that tunnel, they said never again.

        If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy. (David Frum)

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        Against Christofascists sure. I don’t see any actual white supremacy coming out of the USA. It is far too blended of a country now. Everyone knows someone, is related to someone, or involved with someone of varying races. Our friends, our families, and our lovers are all races. Sure, there will be little hate groups still, but white people are quickly losing ground to non-whites, and the government is very inter-racial. Whites are already a minority in California, and set to become minorities nationwide by 2045.

        But the Christofacism is a very real threat, and the US military is a monumental behemoth of monstrous proportions. Woe to all if the Christofascists gain unchecked power.

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      It does happen in slow motion, and every single time, some people see it happening. They march and wave their arms shouting FASCISM! whilst their neighbours call them hyperbolic.

      If you read contemporaneous accounts, you can feel the frustration.

      Or… I thought I could feel the frustration, until recently (eta: if you haven’t read They Thought They Were Free by Milton Mayer, please do as soon as possible). Now it’s doubly frustrating. I keep wracking my brain, wondering what I can do that they didn’t. I can’t stop this, so I keep saying ‘if you were a German in the 1930s, knowing what you know now, what would you do?’

      I don’t know the answer to that. I know many Germans saw it coming and couldn’t stop it.

      What the fuck can we do? Because it is absolutely coming.

      e: oh, and worse, trump isn’t actually the problem. He’ll likely lose, then everyone will high five that we’ve defeated The Problem, but Trump is just their carnival barker. He could die tomorrow and the threat wouldn’t change. There’s a solid fascist movement in the US and elsewhere that will not stop with trump’s defeat. There are thousands of them in high levels of the US government , and they’ll barely miss a beat without trump. He barely matters, and I’m afraid when he loses, the fascist movement behind this will find a wide opening.

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      I got banned from a web forum in 2015 for calling Trump a fascist. This shit should not have been any sort of surprise to anybody paying attention.

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      They’re not even bothering with destroying things behind the scenes. They’re doing it right out in the open, because nobody has the teeth and cajones to stop them.

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      It’s too late.

      Fascism isn’t something on the horizon. Look at what is happening in Idaho. Within a year or two half of the US states will have criminalized abortion, and all you hear from federal legislators is how important it is that we shovel more money we don’t have into other countries’ wars.

      It’s over.

      The only power you or I have left is in our immediate local communities, where you can still accomplish the general good.