• Mostly_Gristle@lemmy.world
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    3 days ago

    The Democrats have had an entire decade to offer some kind of meaningful opposition and didn’t bother. Why would they start now?

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      That’s incorrect. There’s a lot of obstruction from Republicans to allow Democrats to do anything since most decisions required 2/3rds vote to pass. Democrats could not convict Trump of impeachment with 57% of the vote since they needed more Republicans to push it over 2/3rds.

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        That’s just the excuse Democrapitalists have always used to maintain the status quo, even when they had a majority some years back, they still then claimed repubs held them back. It has always been their tactic to win votes, get into power, do nothing. (There are a few exceptions like Sanders, Warren, AOC, Michael Bennett, but few and far between.)

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          I don’t think you understand American politics. If Democrats control 60% of the Senate, they still do not have the majority needed to pass laws. They need to control at least 67% of the Senate to pass laws. Otherwise Republicans can block their vote. That’s why the Democrats could not convict Trump on impeachment even though they controlled more than 50% of the Senate at the time.

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            The senate only needs a simple majority to pass a bill. They need 60 for the cloture vote to end a filibuster. 67 votes are needed for conviction in an impeachment trial. A two-thirds vote is also needed in both the House and Senate to override a Presidential veto.