• Ninmi@sopuli.xyz
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    9 months ago

    I remember watching V for Vendetta when Obama was president and I actually can’t believe the US went from the Obama era to being on the brink of becoming a christofascist nation.

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      9 months ago

      For as long as Democrats continue to run lukewarm candidates and Republicans populists with actual support, this will continue to be the case.

      Do you blame the scorpion or the toad for trusting it? It is entirely the Democrats fault that things are as bad as they are.

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        9 months ago

        Any attempt by the Democrats to do anything tends to be blocked by the Republicans. Anything more serious starts threatening their party support.

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          9 months ago

          The problem is the following loop:

          • With lies, grifting, and general ignorance easier to spread than the complexity of truth, Republicans always hold an inherent advantage by appealing to the lowest common denominator.

          • Democrats make a mistake of trying to appeal to these special “centrists” and conservatives as if resurrecting Reagan himself under the D label would ever pull them over.

          • Because of watering down their policy (and thus effficacy) they ostracize their own grassroots base that does the groundwork in phonebanking, protesting, canvassing, and perhaps most importantly – pushing back against nutjobs on social media and pushing back against their parents, aunts, uncles at Thanksgiving dinner.

          And Democrats wonder why Democrat voter enthusiasm is always so low.

          If Democrats for once campaigned on a platform they believed in; if they actually wholeheartedly backed a candidate who had a science-based, equality-based platform from a position of sincerity – that would be contagious.

          Republicans win by fear and hatred; Democrats can’t win by that. It needs to be surrounded by love, vision, and solidarity.

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    9 months ago

    I watched the ad and I saw Trump’s name a lot more than Biden’s. Other than that it feels like a bunch of stock footage trying to make me feel like being an American isn’t shameful.

    Not a good ad. But what I expected.

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    9 months ago

    I’m sure they’ve focus tested this and yes it is the most important issue, I think they have too much faith in the American voter.

    I can easily see Independents or frustrated Democrats thinking “we were warned ad nauseum about a fascist takeover by trump last time and it didn’t happen and inflation is killing me…”

    I think trump’s threats to democracy is the most serious issue but I can’t see this winning many new voters. Maybe the hope is to increase turnout on our side…

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        9 months ago

        Donald subverting democracy would be a much more immediate threat and make climate change almost impossible to deal with. One has to be avoided to deal with the other and is thus the higher priority.

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          9 months ago

          No matter who wins, the US will pump and burn more oil than the year before. It’s far too late for lesser of two evils politics, my friend.

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            the US will pump and burn more oil than the year before.

            Possibly. But, the US will also be on a course to lower emissions in the long term.

            The Inflation Reduction Act was the most significant piece of climate change legislation in American history. If that goes uninterrupted, so many new battery, solar and other green projects will continue. It’s imperfect but we have a chance (not a guarantee) with the Democrats and none with trump.

            And frankly, in North America, most of climate change for the foreseeable future is more inconvenience than it is “societal collapse.”

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    9 months ago

    This a lob ball for republicans who just have to point out democrats are the ones taking opposition off the ballots.

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      9 months ago

      How do you mean? The people challenging Trump being on the ballots are Republicans with standing in those jurisdictions.

      I am not offering my opinion on these cases, but I think it’s important to make sure we understand who the plaintiffs are.

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        9 months ago

        the two states that have removed Trump from their ballots are Colorado and Maine, Colorado’s entirely democrat appointed supreme court, and Maine’s democratic secretary of state.

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          9 months ago

          You are saying their rulings go against written law in preference to their party affiliation? If so, I’d be interested in understanding how.

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            9 months ago

            I am saying they are democrats that have removed republican opposition from the next election. This is what republican voters are going to see and its gonna be hard to campaign on democracy itself while setting this precedent.

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              9 months ago

              Do our laws matter or not? The guy has been found by courts to have participated in an insurrection. He lost last time, we all know that. He tried to make it so he stayed in power, we all know that. We are just supposed to pretend that didn’t happen because some people still like him?

              Sorry, not how our county works.

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                9 months ago

                The way it’s supposed to go is he gets arrested immediately after the crime by the DoJ and brought to federal trial. But that didnt happen, for several years.

                This is like someone being charged with illegally possessing a firearm as a felon, but without ever being convicted as a felon. No matter how much you believe they committed a felony, they still have to be found guilty first. In this case it’s someone being barred from running for office as an insurrectionist, without ever being convicted as one.

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                  9 months ago

                  The way it’s supposed to go is he gets arrested immediately after the crime by the DoJ and brought to federal trial

                  No. The way it’s supposed to go is the DoJ gathers evidence and decides whether there’s enough of it to charge someone with a crime, and then that person is presumed innocent and has a right to an attorney who builds a case for their defense, using a process called “discovery” which grants them access to evidence and witnesses, and then they are entitled to a jury of their peers, which takes time to select from the general population. Where the fuck did you learn how prosecution works? Pyongyang?