A PRRI survey out Wednesday shows that nearly a quarter of Americans support political violence heading into the 2024 presidential election, as an overwhelming majority believe democracy is at risk.

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    You’re absolutely right that the stakes are incredibly high. I could be naive but I like to think of myself as cautiously optimistic. I do not like Mike Pence. I’d never vote for him. But I’m incredibly happy that he didn’t play along with the insurrectionists’ playbook. He could have. I’m proud that there are at least some prosecutions for submitting false electors. I’d like to see more.

    I work with people who tell me that their 401k was better under Trump and that’s why they want Trump back. Some of them voted for Hilary and Biden. That makes me nervous.

    I told someone else that if Biden dropped dead on November 4th I’d still vote for him on November 5th.

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      My honest hope is he does drop dead right after the election and we get Harris for two terms. I’m not a huge fan of hers, but she was an order of magnitude more progressive than Biden.

      The economy comment is the one that scares me. All the kids on this forum are dismissive of it, but yea, my stocks were performing much better under Trump, my salary was higher, and generally I had more money in my pocket.

      I think that had more to do with trailing indicators from Obama than Trump, but that’s a subtlety the public doesn’t understand.

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        As a general rule I try to never hope someone dies. Harris is very intelligent and very capable but she has zero charisma and like it or not charisma is important. Reagan had it, Clinton has it, Obama has it, Trump has it, and I think Biden used to have some of it too. Harris doesn’t have any and that’ll make getting elected hard. I know a lot of black folk, almost university men, who don’t like her because of her record as a prosecutor. I honestly think it would be very hard for her to win a national election. I think her best chance would be a scenario like you described where she would have time to show Americans how intelligent and capable she truly is.

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          I honestly think it would be very hard for her to win a national election.

          I do too, thus my hope for misfortune. I think it’s our only shot at a real progressive in the white house. If she takes over and kills it, would she get re-elected? Don’t know.

          Aye…Obama is a hard act to follow up on. I think he’s easily the best orator we’ve ever had as president.