• lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    11 hours ago

    Theoretically this is possible to do if you’ve avoided any documentation your entire life, or more likely, the hospital staff just dont care enough and forget to find out who you really are before letting you leave.

    But realistically the hospital is going to have the cops come in and do a background check on you before even letting you get further care after lifesaving measures. And if you dont give up your information then your most likely getting ICE called on your ass…

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      10 hours ago

      none of that is going to happen. hospitals in america are required to provide care in emergencies, no matter if you have documentation or not. you’re not getting ICE called (no hospital is going to do that) and no cops are going to come in to do a background check (what would they check? you don’t have any ID, you’re not required to provide an ID, there’s no crime being committed).

      • lilith267@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        hospitals in america are required to provide care in emergencies

        Yes thats why I stated anything further then life saving procedures

        Your not getting ICE called

        While not called, ICE has arrested/deported hospital patients

        you’re not required to privide an ID

        Yes you are? At the very least you must provide contact information and who you are. Hospitals are looking to make money off of you lol, not paying is a crime

        And when I slammed into a mountainside in my car the hospital I stayed at was very pissed I couldn’t remember my phone number (I just got a new one) and ran an entire background check on me

        The only thing hospitals aren’t gonna do is share your medical information with 3rd parties due to HIPPA, they themselves are still gonna collect it tho

      • ToastedPlanet@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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        10 hours ago

        That assumes a person isn’t a Hispanic day laborer at a hospital during an ICE raid. ICE seems to be focusing on places of work for their targets, but with the current pause on the federal judge’s ruling, ICE can violate the fourth amendment anywhere.

        ICE doesn’t need any ID to look at a person and make a judgement based on physical appearance.

        https://www.scotusblog.com/2025/09/supreme-court-allows-federal-officers-to-more-freely-make-immigration-stops-in-los-angeles/

        In her dissent, Sotomayor argued that the Trump administration, “and now the concurrence” by Kavanaugh, “has all but declared that all Latinos, U.S. citizens or not, who work low wage jobs are fair game to be seized at any time, taken away from work, and held until they provide proof of their legal status to the agents’ satisfaction.”

        In Sotomayor’s view, the Trump administration had not shown that it was ultimately likely to prevail on the merits. In particular, she wrote, “a set of facts cannot constitute reasonable suspicion if it ‘describes a very large category of presumably innocent’ people.” “Allowing the seizure,” she said, “of any Latino speaking Spanish at a car wash in Los Angles tramples the constitutional requirement that officers ‘must have a particularized and objective basis for suspecting the particular person stopped of criminal activity.’”