• rickrolled767@ttrpg.network
    16·
    3 hours ago

    The funny thing for me is I swapped to fedora after my last attempt to use arch failed spectacularly.

    I’ve found I’m at a point where I just want my device to work and work well

    • tempest@lemmy.ca
      3·
      1 hour ago

      Yeah at some point they are all the same to me it’s just the different package manager. Pacman, apt, yum or whatever they are calling it now a days.

      Most use systemd.

      I started using Arch flavors because when you have brand new hardware the latest kernel can be important. After the machine is a couple years old it doesn’t really matter.

      Also Endeavouros is where it’s at (but don’t tell the vanilla Arch people, they won’t help me with my problems if they find out)

  • Diplomjodler@lemmy.world
    11·
    5 hours ago

    You can have your cake and eat it too! Just install Arch in a VM to play around with without jeopardizing the stability of your main machine. Once you feel comfortable, you can make the switch. Or not. Having choices is great.

    • MadPsyentist@lemmy.nzEnglish
      2·
      5 hours ago

      Dosent even have to be the way you like it. It only has to be the way that lets you get work done. If you can get work done on your thinking sand tool then it is a good tool.

  • PastafARRian@lemmy.dbzer0.com
    216·
    11 hours ago

    Unpopular opinion: I love Ubuntu. No, I don’t use snaps at all. I have an Nvidia GPU and it’s literally the only OS working out of the box. Yes I tried Debian, I’m too busy to fiddle with drivers. No, I can’t get rid of the GPU, I depend on it for critical workflows. I love the minimalism of Gnome. Never liked KDE/Cinnamon honestly, they’re too busy for my tastes. For 15 years I’ve tried other distros and I’m always back on Ubuntu. I’ll ride the purple penguin to my grave.

    Downvotes only please.

    • Bluewing@lemmy.world
      1·
      3 hours ago

      I’ve always admired Ubuntu for making installing nVidia driver pretty painless.

      I don’t know nVidia gpu you have, but I’m looking at immutable distros and I found Aurora, (based on Fedora Kinonite). Before I even downloaded the iso, they asked if I had an nVidia chipset and which one. I simply selected the driver for my older 1650 chipset and they automatically added the correct driver into the iso. I installed it and everything was working properly on first boot.

      It was without a doubt the most painless nVidia driver install I’ve ever had on ANY OS.

    • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
      10·
      9 hours ago

      It certainly seems like public opinion changed the tast ten years or so. As an ubuntu user, could you confirm or deny these claims I’ve seen? One is that firefox is a snap even if you try to install it with apt. Another is that they show ads to get paid ubuntu in the terminal output?

        • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
          2·
          5 hours ago

          I really liked Ubuntu back when the color scheme was more brown/orange, it seemed so friendly. The last ten years I’ve been on Debian though, but LMDE seems interesting.

          • alsimoneau@lemmy.ca
            1·
            3 hours ago

            LMDE is great, it’s what I recommend to all new Linux users. Lots of tiny things that remove friction, like not requiring Sudo for apt and showing stars when typing a password.

            • pmk@lemmy.sdf.org
              1·
              3 hours ago

              I with they would align LMDE with regular Mint in one aspect though, that there would be an out of the box btrfs layout that matches what Timeshift expects (iirc @ and @home?) which is different from how debian and therefore LMDE sets it up automagically. Maybe this has changed in recent years.

      • Lifter@discuss.tchncs.de
        7·
        9 hours ago

        I can confirm them both. I’m considering moving to Debian because of this.

        You can uninstall snap and use flatpak for those apps but it was a slap in the face when Firefox suddenly was replaced by a snap through apt

    • untorquer@lemmy.world
      12·
      4 hours ago

      Trying to help with the downvote situation. Glad you decided on a distro that works for you and you’re not succumbing to the pressure.

  • Hellfire103@lemmy.caEnglish
    66·
    16 hours ago

    The literal ArchWiki says you may not want to use Arch if you are happy with your current OS.

    • Owl@mander.xyz
      71·
      7 hours ago

      Almost every interaction with a boomer involving their computer/phone

      • TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org
        9·
        4 hours ago

        The zoomers and gen-alpha aren’t doing much better. Just ask the average teen what a filesystem is and how to find a file without it being organized in some sort of media gallery app.

        As a millennial, I often feel like I’m surrounded by tech illiterates on both the upper AND lower sides of my age bracket.

      • Bluewing@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 hours ago

        It’s dumb as hell to most here, but ordinary users their own ideas on what a desktop should look like that often doesn’t agree with the intelligentsia. Just let them have it.

    • Zink@programming.dev
      5·
      14 hours ago

      Hell yes! Mint 4 life!

      I am convinced that I will try Arch or similar some day in the future simply because of SteamOS switching over to being based off of it. But for now, I develop software for embedded Linux systems all day at work. When I get home it’s either family time inside or it’s playing “engineer turned farmer” in my back yard. Literally digging in the dirt and building stuff out of wood. Feels good man.

      • Bluewing@lemmy.world
        2·
        2 hours ago

        Do it…You know you want to.

        After a couple of decades of wandering the Great Distro Desert in search of The One, it seems I have landed and Fedora Plasma as what I want in an OS. I’ve been running Fedora for the past few years now. I’m currently looking into Kinonite for that atomic goodness. It appears good so far.

        Edit: You can choose the Cinnamon Spin if you enjoy that DE. I found Fedora Cinnamon to be snappier than the Mint version.

    • Grenfur@pawb.social
      20·
      20 hours ago

      Here’s the thing. When I talk to friends interested in Linux, it’s always Debian or Fedora that I suggest. I think they draw a good line for what the average user wants and needs and they’re stable. In fact, I used Fedora for a long time, and all my homelab stuff runs Debian. It wasn’t until computers themselves became a hobby that I switched to Arch. And I think that’s likely the cutoff. If you’re a computer user, stable distros are great. If you’re more a hobbiest… Well, the Arch wiki can own your free time.

      • sunstoned@lemmus.orgEnglish
        12·
        15 hours ago

        “Man I wish I could do more with my new computer” – Fedora

        “Yeah I just want to breathe some new life into this old laptop and have it last me until the end of time” – Debian

        • Fizz@lemmy.nz
          2·
          6 hours ago

          Normal distro -> arch -> gentoo -> nixOS -> QubesOS -> Debian pipeline.

            • Fizz@lemmy.nzEnglish
              1·
              2 hours ago

              Thats what you think you want but by the time you’re at the end of the pipeline you just want a computer that works.

              • x0x7@lemmy.world
                2·
                1 hour ago

                In my experience that means packages from this century. Eventually you do need a new software for something. Trying to get software from 10 years ago to agree with software released in the last 6 months leads to breaking things or finding myself doing Linux From Scratch on top of debian or ubuntu.

                It turns out if everything is new everything really does just work. That’s why I use Artix (child of Arch). It’s less pain. You just have to ignore the myth that these systems are “hard.” Graphics cards and Steam work out of the gait. There is a reason why StreamOS is built on Arch.

                No more compile hell in the rare case you need to compile because the AUR does the same thing, but in a single command line resolving all dependencies. It’s like compiling without the experience of compiling.

                Just make sure you always pacman -Syu before pacman -S {package}. No exceptions. Or in rare cases you may have to chroot from a live disk and pacman -S linux to fix your initramfs. If you do that one thing nothing ever breaks.

              • null@lemmy.nullspace.lolEnglish
                3·
                2 hours ago

                So far, that’s exactly why I’ve stopped at Nix.

                Everything is declared exactly how I want it. If something would break, it just bails on the update. If I want to set up a new machine, I just clone my config and build it.

                I’m not sure what could be more “just works” than that.