• ryedaft@sh.itjust.works
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      What, you don’t have that? My electric bill has a rate, a rate for the network, a subscription fee, electricity green taxes, and sales tax. I’m European.

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        The entire breakdown of my electricity bill in the UK is a rate for energy use, a standing charge that is independent of usage, and VAT. Strictly speaking I’ve got two different usage rates because my heating is on a separate meter, but that’s an unusual situation

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        Here it boils down to:

        • Network power (fixed fee based on your max power needs, depends on time as well, can be 3.6€ / kw in winter months)
        • Network energy transfer (fee for energy transfered, here its about 0.018€/kwh)
        • Energy (fee on the energy used, about 0.146€/kwh right now)
        • VAT
        • some bullshit for maintenance and running an open market portal for companies to buy/sell energy (like 1-3€)
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        Nothing beats Portugal:

        • Kwh rate
        • Social electricity finance tax
        • General economic costs fee
        • Infrastructure utilization fee
        • Energy and geology exploration tax
        • Electricity consumption Special tax
        • Audiovisual contribution
        • Sales tax
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            It’s to finance the Portuguese version of BBC. Called RTP. The funny part is that it’s also used for the sales tax calculation, so there is a tax fee

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        Usually taxes and transmission fees are rolled into the kWh Price you are shown when enrolling into the contract

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      Yeah probably. I’m in the US. Here’s how my bill is broken down and how much it costs for 1000kWh:

      Generation Service Charge: $117
      Customer Charge: $10 flat fee
      Distribution Charge: $94
      Transition Charge: -$1
      Transmission Charge: $45
      Net Meter Recovery Surcharge: $16
      Revenue Decoupling Charge: -$1
      Distributed Solar Charge: $4
      Renewable Energy Charge: $0.50
      Energy Efficiency Charge: $31
      Electric Vehicle Program: $1

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      Your country had better have a state owned grid, with a state run retailer, else this is still the same sort of shit, just without hidden fees.

      Sincerely, an annoyed Victorian/Australian that wishes their electricity was just managed by the state.

      There may be no hidden fees where I’m from, but when there’s a private company with a monopoly, what’s the difference?

      Capitalism/privatisation is such a scam

      :(

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      You’re allowed to buy electricity from a separate broker than your “power company” so they split the bill between power usage and service fees plus there’s state and local taxes.

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        Being allowed to on paper and actually being able to are wildly different things. They’re monopolies in most areas that get away with it by stringently denying that fact. Same with cable companies.

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        You’re allowed to buy electricity from a separate broker than your “power company”

        I’m curious about this, would you be willing to elaborate?

        Where I live we don’t have a choice of electricity providers for my home. Are you talking about states that have deregulated energy markets?

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          Yes, they’re called retail electric suppliers. Some have offers to lock in a fixed Price for a year and others have variable rates. Then you can choose to have power billed separately from delivery or not.

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      My bill in Illinois isn’t like this. There’s a couple fees to stay hooked into the grid and then a flat rate per unit energy

      Variable rate would be nicer but I’m too busy to set it up

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      In the UK it’s all rolled up into the “service charge”. Including the “loads of other companies couldn’t manage themselves properly and went bust and we had to take on their customers fee”