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I think it’s ironic that the alternatives to Android (graphene, calyx) only fully work on Google phones.
Ditch Google
Step 1: Send them money
Used phones: exist
Users who constantly repost this same comment: “doesn’t look like anything to me.”
Used pixel actually limit a lot the choice. I’ve not dived into de-googled phone yet but from what I understood postmarketOS seems like the used/old phone OS
Writing this from a degoogled Pixel 4a bought second hand for 80 bucks a couple years ago. Great camera, enough storage, fingerprint sensor, headphone jack, fits in hand and pocket. This thing is close to perfect, new phones are scam.
Doesnt calyxos also work on fairphone
“work” is doing a lot of heavy lifting here when talking about a Fairphone. Worst phone I ever owned with quite some margin.
LineageOS works on a bunch of non google phones
I’m running lineage os on a Motorola moto g7 power (2019) Android 15 runs fine on a 6 year old phone.
Same reason it continually sucks to get a working Linux build on an apple laptop or desktop.
As bad as Google is, they’re lightyears ahead of Apple in terms of protecting their products in a walled garden.
Really? What’s your favorite custom ROM for modern iPhones?
I’ve never investigated for iPhones but would be curious
- if they exist
- how bloody hard they are to get going
I can only speak for laptops/desktops and it being a bitch.
There’s a reason I’m very adamant at hating Apple for a multitude of technical reasons. This is but one of them. It’s a shame too because their build quality is really S-Tier.
Throwing it out there - I am tired of left always acting as if something done decade ago was still fresh. Pewds changed, he flipped his whole video formula, and even back then evil things he did were at least questionable. Let it go folks. You are doing nothing else than making yourself look like bitter old people.
Edit: I noticed it’s not obvious what I am talking about. Other comments. People constantly talking about how Pewds is a nazi.
Honestly, the only drama I’ve ever read about him was the n-word on the bridge situation. Now before I migrated to Lemmy I had a decade and half old account on Reddit that got n-word count botted, and even through all the heated debates & drunken shit posting, I never once dropped so much as the -a ending. But I grew up in an area of lower socioeconomic development, and I was the rare super pasty white boy who used it growing up because that was the common vernacular I heard every day. And I was only ever once confronted about it from someone I didn’t know. But as I started to grow, mature, and expand my social circle I learned how cringey it was (and I still look back on myself in a sense of embarrassment and disgust to this day). I’m just happy that this was early Myspace days, and there are no videos of it floating around.
Now I want to make it perfectly clear, I was not an Xbox live chat edgy shit head. This was the language I heard all around me growing up, so it was an honest adoption.
With that Ted talk out the way. I have only ever seen the bridge video of his, and a late night talk show (Colbert?) interview with him. That is it so I have absolutely no horse in the race. But I do understand how people can grow and change, and it sounds like from what everyone else is saying about him, that he has for the better.
He literally never did anything evil or bad. This is a myth that was entirely created by the far left, who falsely call everything fascist, despite never watching his content.
There is the expected amount of negativity in the comments, but also more positivity than I expected.
I watched the video. I am not really a fan of the style, I don’t agree with all of the content. But damn, a big influencer is using his reach to talk about retaking privacy and control in your online life. It can be such a difficult subject to pitch without sounding crazy. I think the video existing is great and pushes general awareness in the right direction.
Other than hearing his name, I’ve never seen any of his content, nor do I know any of his lore. If in fact, he once was and has now changed his core convictions, then great. I have no issue with anyone who changes their minds in light of new evidence, or after taking inventory of one’s life, and deciding a new route. Both are commendable. Lord knows we’ve all done some shit in the past that was definitely cringe…I know I have. But we grow, and we learn, and in the process we become better human beings.
He never was. When teenagers used to scream n-word for shit and giggles, he was monetarily incentivised to do stupid stunts. No belief behind, other than to have a laugh and jump in views. When he crossed the line and was critised for it, he backed off, apologised and learned from his mistakes.
But people love draging it out each and every single time he does anything, be it good or bad.
This is the far left people talk about when they say cancel culture or some shit. Some people are so miserable, they want everyone around them miserable too. Qq
Hm, I’m not sure about that. There was a point in time where he was - even outside his videos - engaging with Ben Shapiro and Elon Musk. Echoing their philosophies and world views. The alt-right was using him and his platform to lure teenagers in. It’s possible that Felix did not even realize what was happening there. Or he was brainwashed himself for some time.
The important thing is that from 2019 onwards he clearly distanced himself from any of that.
Almost everyone at that time was engaging with those two. Matter of fact many loved elon musk. I get the point tho.
Leopards don’t change their spots.
People on Lemmy really just suck. So much snobby negativity
So is he a nazi or not?
In short, a bunch of years ago he did some stunts for publicity that put him in a bad light. And don’t get me wrong, he deserved criticism back then. But it quickly became apparent that it wasn’t his view, but just that - a publicity stunt, something to drive algorithms etc, and he also apologised for it and what’s more important, didn’t make similiar shit afterwards.
So no, not a nazi. In the past you could call him edgy or something, alas even that doesn’t really fit as he didn’t do this all the time. But people saw he is popular and saw what he did and decided that no matter that these were one-offs, he must be a nazi, secretely harbor a shrinet o Hitler and all that.
Do you want to continue posturing and fishing for confirmation from other edgy teenage minds, or do you want the answer?
? I want the answer. I am not sure if you are saying he is a nazi or he is not.
I seriously doubt that anyone who asks that question doesn’t already have a foregone conclusion, but fine, I’ll indulge you.
Probably not. If he was, and had been hiding it his entire life, even in the era when he was the youtube star and had zero restraint, why would he slip up those few times, and especially such highly public ways?
He did and said some shit in his early 20s, and he deserved the criticism at the time, but those incidents weren’t repeated and weren’t part of a pattern. He wasn’t the paragon of virtue and maturity, but I’m willing to bet my left nut that neither are the people who are lining up to crucify him, and the only difference is that he had an audience. The people who aren’t willing to let go of their prejudices after a decade are equally as immature.
Not the person you’re replying to, but honestly I don’t pay attention to pop culture shit, so I’d ask honestly too, and thanks for providing the explanation, I assumed he had moved on since I heard little of his antics anymore but it’s good to see info. Don’t assume people know things like that. Just assume they don’t and get to be one of todays lucky 10,000. 🙂
In case you aren’t familiar with the lucky 10k, see here.
The discourse goes to the same fucking place every time Felix is mentioned. People don’t deserve the benefit of doubt.
… what?
they’re responding to other comments, like about Pewdiepie being a nazi.
Er. ‘I am done with Google’. Watch the video on YouTube…
I like how Lemmy somehow still finds negativity here. Never change lmao.
An internet celebrity in the millions of followers is going FOSS. Cheer up. On the downstream, this may bring Lemmy more users and put more visibility on open software.
I mean where else is he going to reach the most YouTube/Google users?
For Pewdiepie this makes a lot of sense, he was literally the top youtuber. But uploading also somewhere else (no exclusivity required) needs to become mainstream yesterday. We have technical colleges far from the US posting educational video content for a website embed on youtube only, it’s madness 😅
Where would be a general purpose place to use as the second platform? Something that’s easy to use (and ofc not even more immoral than youtube, so not rumble or things like that).
Peertube would be my choice, thanks to p2p one won’t burden an instance if a video gets too popular. Just found a nice interface to find a good instance as a videomaker depending on topic, requirements, etc: https://joinpeertube.org/instances?profile=video-maker
As with the rest of the fediverse, autonomous institutions like universities should ideally have their own instance or join a collective. Embeds get the same p2p benefits and they seem super easy to implement
I always thought it was a federated kind of platform. Not really p2p. Why do you need an instance if its p2p?
It’s p2p between the watchers, but files are hosted on a server (an instance of Peertube). With just one person watching a video there’s no p2p, only server-client.
“I’m done with capitalism” he writes on a phone paid for with 😧 MONEY 👻
I’m done with Google! Watch me rant on Google’s Youtube! Earns me money!
So… yeah.
Why are we giving neonazis attention, again?
Accurate once again
so much better
Correlation is not causation.
No, stop, come back…
- Google, 2025
That boy doing so much work for privacy and linux communities. I love it!
Imagine if some big influencers like him switched to peertube, that would be quiet a thing indeed.
Even just mirroring.
Is there a tool already that makes it easy to upload to both? Idk, I haven’t uploaded a video since like the 10s
Wait for it, I bet a whole bunch of people mentioned it in the comments of this one. That will probably be the topic of his next video. Although I’m hoping for stopkillinggames.com.
How about LBRY? Do you think it’s a sane alternative to YT? I also think peertube is the true freedom, though, I was surprised how quick videos load on odysee
LBRY is cool but I’m honestly sketched out by the creators that currently exist there. It’s mostly weird libertarians and crypto bros plus random porn bots. Also between the first and most recent times I played with it they added a CDN that hosts all of the files and something like 99% of the data I downloaded while farting around on there came from that single official CDN, so very decentralized.
Peertube has actual large creators who aren’t weird conservative podcasters, and tons of different servers already which serve content, and great Mastadon integration which puts it in a much better spot for growth moving forwards than LBRY. You can literally watch peertube videos from Mastadon (Which has millions of active users including some celebrities and government officials) and comment on them from Mastadon, so there’s kinda already a userbase measured in millions depending on how you classify cross-fediverse users
It still baffles me why anyone likes him in the first place tbh
i get it, and don’t mind seeing him these days, but I don’t seek him out.
I can kinda see it, though he’s not my cup of tea. I like my videos a bit more essay-like and a bit more serious mode.
Can we stop with the narrative that corporations and celebrities are doing good? This guy is 110 Million people away from doing something for privacy and linux, once he makes 110 million and one person switch to linux or using a youtube alternative he will have done some work in the positive.
I mean… glass half full or half empty… You can appreciate how enthusiastic he was about it and how many people saw the video, or you can just complain… Btw. if he should do more, it will be the positive feedback he gets about it, not the negative one which is just demotivating…
I just subscribbed to him
For the first time
Wasn’t interested in his old content but these new videos are fire and he has a very nice personality and overall amazing video quality. I inderstand why he was number 1 for so many years
He has some more mature videos where he reviews books and tours around the world. Sometimes not so mature, he plays Minecraft or calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna, and that can be fun too.
“calls another YouTube channel bitch lasagna” that was years ago right? These days he seems more calm and almost no toxicity whatsoever other than rarely saying shit, fuck, or generic swear word.
He’s on his dad arc. I stopped watching his japan videos cause i don’t like vlogs but it’s insane to me how he fell into the foss rabbit hole. Many of us can relate to that here.
Pewdiepie, don’t go to the bridge!
Agreed, he is doing a lot better now.
I love this new arc of pewds, unimaginably based. I’m actually interested in watching his videos now after a looong time. The last three tech related ones were great.
Dude’s having an interesting life trajectory
Three R’s to deGoogling: Reduce, replace, remove.
I would say start by changing your browser and search engine (lots of options out there today), and then set up your own domain for email hosting so you can try different providers.
There isn’t another YouTube with all that content out there, so that one is tough, but you don’t have to 100% de google, 50% is still good. 15% is still good.
Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.
Pobodies nerfect…
Despite the lack of content we should mention peertube any time possible to increase knowledge of it, if nothing else
Your own domain, but you’re safer not hosting your own email servers in general. Just wanted to be clear for anyone reading this. If your mail server is down you don’t get mail 🫠
I ended up using a service that isn’t Google for that with my own domain
set up your own domain for email hosting
cannot recommend this enough!
- register your domain through something like porkbun
- get an account with someone like mxroute.com (i am a fan, but not an affiliate or anything)
- enjoy pain-free email for the rest of your life
Your own domain for email hosting is a massive pain in the ass. Have you not run into a million problems with other hosting providers refusing you for possibly spam?
Self hosting an email server is a pain in the ass and I don’t really recommend it.
Buying your own domain and using it in whatever email provider you want is very easy and gives you ownership over the email address. You may switch providers freely without needing anyone else to do anything.
I wasn’t self hosting. I was just talking about your own domain, which caused me serious problems when flagged for spam.
Edit: I’m guessing it’s easier nowadays but I still carry that pain lol
That’s not an issue with a custom domain name, but one of the other parts you run into, SPF and DKIM dns settings being correct and the reputation of whatever SMTP server’s ip address is. No one spam-bins based just on random domain names, or every business would freak out. You can also use your own domain on Google, Microsoft, or Apples ecosystems, not that you need to, there are plenty of providers that will host your email. I like runbox.
Oh shit is that what the issue was??? Thank you for explaining! I thought it was literally blacklisted like that. I told those worthless dumbfucks to whitelist my domain and that shit just kept happening—and they made me do all the work every time. It was exhausting and frustrating. I’ll look into runbox, thanks again.
I wonder if there might be some super common spam tlds like .xyz or .ru or something, but generally, yeah, custom domain isn’t the issue. Some other options are Migadu, mailbox.org, mxroute, and Tuta all seem like decent companies. A lot of others “also do” email hosting, like porkbun and OVH. Plenty of companies host their email with all these companies and have mostly clear sailing without being spam binned.
My own domain?!? Any suggestions??
Whatever name fits your fancy. Go with solid registrars like Namecheap or cloudflare.
Once you get your domain, you can use most any email provider to handle mail for that domain. Fastmail is really good. Or proton if you want the encryption.
That’s pretty much my setup, it is not super hard to get working, it’s basically just copying and pasting the magic numbers they give you
Gotta also recommended porkbun for a registrar, had a great experience with then.
Porkbun + runbox here. Domain and email together cost less than $30 a year. You can use the domain for free with GitHub pages or cloudflare for a free website too.
I personally picked Mailfence, but I saw both runbox and mailfence are really good. Tho Mailfence is a bit more expensive
Get something on .com or .net. Vanity tlds will piss off reputation services. And make sure you set up spf/dkim
Other reason is the renew fees for special tlds are so unpredictable. Com is surprisingly cheap to renew.
I’m loving Pewdie’s redemption arc
There’s no redemption arc because he literally never did anything wrong. His content was always family friendly
Didn’t realize the N word was family friendly lol
which one?
started with minecraft & redstone, now linux & degoogling, can we extrapolate that in some years pewd’s gonna start hrt lol
has he stopped “accidentally” naziing?
Yeah this is why it’s so offputting seeing so much praise for him here. I don’t believe he’s ever outright apologized and owned up to what he’s said and done in the past (I could be wrong though?). Last I checked the dude was literally a neo nazi.
My wife was a PewDiePie fan from before the slur incident so I’ve loosely seen some of his content over the years. He’s apologized multiple times, and he’s shifted his style significantly multiple times since then.
Basically in the last few years he’s grown up a ton. He married his girlfriend of a decade or more after earlier refusing marriage, had a baby, emigrated to Japan and now posts tons of creative and day-in-the-life style vlogs
Didn’t he stream a dead body in a Japanese suicide forest shortly after moving to Japan?
That was Logan Paul, and actually the Paul brothers’ antics actually greatly delayed Pewd’s immigration as the Japanese government actually stopped granting new visas to any social media personalitiws for some time after the Paul incidents.
If I remember correctly he wasn’t able to immigrate until mid-2020 thanks to the Paul Borthers’ lack of respect for anyone
I really don’t get how so many people here are so happy that a Nazi is using Linux and doesn’t like Google anymore. That’s not the kind of clown I’d want representing or being a spokesperson for my interests and it’s really making me second guess the people here.
Edit: @nasi_goreng@lemmy.zip 's comment has provided info I didn’t have, and recontextualizes the attitudes here I wasn’t understanding, so now I get why there’s support for this.
Grow up. he did.
That’s going to be one long arc though
Is it though? I never paid any attention to him, so I only know that one time he made some kids make a sign with heil Hitler or something like that (which from what I’ve read was just a joke in bad taste, he isn’t a nazi or major racist). Otherwise, I haven’t heard anything bad about him, he was just never someone I cared to know more about and watch, seemed to be mostly for kids. Please, correct anything I’ve said if I’m wrong.
He has had some serious run ins with controversy like the bridge incident and a shooter co-opting the T-Series fake beef but beyond that it’s basically people reacting seriously to him aping Filthy Frank, in my opinion I think he’s made good enough on not shooting himself in the foot now, mostly probably cuz he’s a Dad now and trying to ape Filthy Frank is too much effort.
Man I want to move to Graphene so bad. I want all the google ripped out of my phone.
Move to Lineage OS or Calyx OS
Don’t be fooled by the Graphene OS Mafia
What do the other two do better?
Lineage OS is a fairly generic ROM based on AOSP so it supports the most devices
Calyx OS is a privacy focused ROM without all the Graphene OS BS. The Graphene OS team and community are quite toxic and have a “my way or the highway” mentality. They don’t support MicroG and focus more on security than privacy and freedom.
@possiblylinux127 @Tattorack See also this table: https://discuss.techlore.tech/t/comparison-chart-of-grapheneos-divestos-and-calyxos/5618
A bit outdated since Divest is gone (😢), but a core difference is that Graphene prefers proprietary google stuff that is sandboxed and not given any privileges, while Calyx prefers free software versions that might have other issues (eg incomplete, or unsigned coming from third-party sources).
Its decent except google amdoid aosp policy changes are screwing it over
Yeah, part of why I want to get one soon is to have a semi recent phone before they can’t do graphene properly anymore
Not being able to do graphene properly will hit everythibg if they screw up aosp i think
what’s stopping you? was the very first thing I did, don’t regret it for a second – https://ocv.me/b/img/IMG_20230811_121845_049.1ssy.jpg “i’m about to finish setting up my pixel alright” :p
The cost of buying a pixel is the only thing stopping me. I don’t have enough to replace my aging phone with much of anything, let alone a pixel.
You can save quite a bit by getting a refurbished Pixel - looks like the cheapest “Google certified” option (so it comes with a 1-year warranty) is a 6a for $250, which is nearly half off MSRP. I’ve been using my 6a since launch, so it’s been going for 3 years now and I have no desire to upgrade.
You can definitely get cheaper smartphones, but $250 for a 6a feels like a pretty big bang for your buck.
I got a pixel 9 for $240 CAD via carrier promotion in Canada.
I held out getting a new phone as long as I could and they offered a new pixel 9 for $5 per month for 24 months
Not to trade in after 24.
It’s mine. For 5$ a month.
When I received it I didn’t turn it on for a week.
Read as much as I could to decide that Google would only ever see the single boot to enable developer mode and enable OEM unlock to flash graphenos.
It seemed intimidating, but the process to install is very smooth.
One million hours in gimp
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