• spookedbyroaches@lemm.ee
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    10 months ago

    It’s pretty hilarious that any person would call the totalitarian, chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized North Korea “the Good Korea”

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      10 months ago

      chronic food shortage stricken, ostracized

      i wonder why a country under economic sanction from the US & its allies for decades might have economic trouble. i wonder why they’re rude to the US after the US bombed and murdered their people for 3 years & still occupy the southern half of their country

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        10 months ago

        I mean the US did have talks and if you’re not willing to concede anything that’s on you. Also, military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation.

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          10 months ago

          Also, military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation.

          If war breaks out, the RoK is supposed to turn overall command of its military over to the US.

          South Korea is not a sovereign state.

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          10 months ago

          military presence in the country is pretty different from occupation

          45 fucking years the US propped up, armed, and aided the dictatorial rule of conservative and military governments in South Korea. South Korea’s army still comes under US control in wartime, but sure 2 decades of just mostly corrupt “democracy” means they can just opt-out of US military garrisons. nothing bad would happen to the government that demands that, no matter how popular it is with the Korean people

          if you’re not willing to concede anything

          the US won’t concede basic demands like moving their troops off the border! fucking ridiculous equating Korea’s refusal to expose itself to attack with US bases thousands of miles away from the US

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            10 months ago

            Despite this, as of 2011, 74% of South Koreans have a favorable view of the U.S., making it one of the most pro-American countries in the world.

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                That’s crazy but true. Funny thing is that a month before the poll the guy had a 10% approval rating. It’s only after the South Korean president was discussing demilitarization with Kim in the 2018 summit did people come to trust him.

                hmmm… It’s almost as if you would show some good faith that you are willing to concede and not be a nuclear crazy warmonger, people would look positively at you. Crazy isn’t it?

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                    The point is that I was criticizing Kim because he was being authoritarian and hostile towards the west. You said that the South Koreans love him though. But they liked him after he was trying to find peace and concede with the westerners. This shows that he was changing his ways. I’m assuming that you don’t want that though.

                    I thought I should give you the info and let you realize what’s going on, but honestly that’s on me. I should have realized you’re a smooth-brain as soon as you parroted a headline without knowing what the fuck is going on.

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          South Korea is on its FIFTH version of the country because the US continually coups it whenever the existing people aren’t doing exactly what they want. It’s called the Fifth Republic for a fucking reason. It is an occupied vassal state entirely subservient to the USA and has been ever since the US genocided one fifth of the population of Korea (all of Korea). Keep in mind that being on your FIFTH republic is remarkable when the southern dictatorship was only first formed in 1948.

          The US military has also literally run korean children over with tanks, which is very funny given that this is fake propaganda levelled at another enemy of the US, but in the case of america it’s actually fucking true.

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            I had no clue there were several republics kinda like France (I think?), I searched Wikipedia and it said that they are on their 6th republic, not 5th. Maybe you are off by one? Either way it’s a poor mark on the country and its governance.

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              Ahh yes 6th. Working from memory in most of my responses and without checking I’m pretty bad at dates and numbers tbh. It’s worse with african countries though I am one of the people that mixes up their histories all the time to my great shame. I don’t even know why it happens, I don’t do it with south american countries.

              The general point stands, the stability of their government is directly tied to whether or not they’re doing what the americans want. And whenever things aren’t going precisely as desired the coups happen incredibly easily. By design.

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                I wonder if someone could make a series of movie trailers for each republic with the executive producer being the US and having all sorts of poor takes.

                Executive Producer: “No, no, we need LESS military oversight for the next one, SPEND MORE on practical explosions, the audience will love it!”
                Director: “But sir, we already had half an hour of explosions, the most common criticism was about the confusing plot which was always interrupted by explosion sequences.”
                Executive Producer: “We need those to keep the audience on their toes! We can’t plan explosion scenes we need to let the invisible hand of the free market decide and let us know!!”

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                  Lol I can see that working.

                  It’s fucking weird though thinking about France being on their Fifth republic over a period since the 1700s and these 6 occurring in… 60 years.

                  It is impossible for any normal unpropagandised person to look at this scenario and not see something is up that’s worth scrutinising.

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      You live in the largest, most expensive propaganda machine that’s ever been created by man

      You’re talking about a country and an ideology that propaganda machine has been willing to burn the world with nuclear hellfire to contain for a hundred years

      Learn about the things you’re talking about. “The forgotten war”

      Yes. North Korea is and has always been the good guys.