• Optional@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    “I’m not a US citizen”

    This appears to apply to a LOT of people who’re making the tired “democrats suck for losing” comments. It kinda boggles my mind.

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      4 days ago

      When did I say something like that?

      Sincethe whole world is dependant on the american empire in some form or another, it’s pretty wild to prohibit non-US citizens to have an opinion on the US election.

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        3 days ago

        When did I say something like that?

        Right here.

        You said that “those who didn’t vote shouldn’t be allowed to complain”. I felt included, since I didn’t -ote, but I’m not a US citizen. Refusing to steelman your point does not equal strawmanning.

        You’re commenting on the very specific set of social, cultural, organizational, and regional elements that have affected this election, and you have no direct knowlege, or comprehensive knowledge of any of it. Yet here you are feeling really strongly about it.

        That’s fine in that it’s not illegal or anything - hey, let your freak flag fly, but - I just find it strange. As a stupid American, if I were to feel really strongly about LiverpoolFC’s lineup or strategies, you’d expect I knew a lot about football but I don’t - yet here I am telling them Diogo Jota’s injury is going to plague them the rest of the season and they’re complete idiots for not working to replace him right now when it could make a damned bit of difference. And I don’t watch football.

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          You’re commenting on the very specific set of social, cultural, organizational, and regional elements that have affected this election, and you have no direct knowlege, or comprehensive knowledge of any of it. Yet here you are feeling really strongly about it.

          Where did I say anything of the notion “democrats suck for losing”.

          Also, I’d argue that no one has “comprehensive” knowledge of the elements that affected this election. At least not at this point in time. “Direct” knowledge is IMHO not that important to judge the situation.

          I think you underestimate how much US politics is covered around the globe. Just look at this community and remember: there are a lot of non-US citizens on Lemmy.

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            Okay, but we’re talking about the mindset of Americans that didn’t vote against trump. I’d argue whatever insight the international press offers is significantly more limited than the insight one gets from living a large percentage of one’s life here. As regards party politics, at least.

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      4 days ago

      Right? When I talked with my English, German, and Australian friends they all blamed the voters immediately. “What the fuck are they thinking?!?” was the response.

      It’s not like the DNC manipulated or obfuscated Harris’s message the way they did Bernie’s in 2016.