• Samvega@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    perhaps the most illogical thing

    Here’s how logic works:

    If killing is wrong, then don’t kill.

    Can America please stop enabling the killing. Thanks.

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      7 days ago

      Less killing is better than more killing.

      Attempted ceasefire is better than undermining said ceasefire.

      More amicability better than less amicability.

      Less Ukrainians die vs more Ukrainians die.

      Comparative logic.

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          You seem to be under the impression that your not voting changes the binary outcome.

          This pyrrhic victory neglects to recognize that either Trump or Harris will be elected. And there is no circumstance that Trump is better than Harris. Not on women’s rights. Not on climate change. Not on Ukraine. And not on Gaza.

          Whether you like it or not, it’s Harris or Trump. Sticking your head in the sand doesn’t change this fact.

          So both the moral and pragmatic solution is to choose the lesser evil that gives the highest odds to improve all these groups. Which is Harris. Factually.

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            You seem to be under the impression that your not voting changes the binary outcome.

            Me voting wouldn’t change the outcome either, considering I can’t.

             

            So both the moral and pragmatic solution is to choose the lesser evil

            Is killing wrong?

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              Yes, killing wrong.

              Killing more people with less chance to kill fewer people more wrong.

              Again, dichotomous choice. Easiest choice to make, really.

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                If killing is wrong, then voting to kill some rather than more is still wrong.

                I request better options.

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                  Correction: it is less wrong.

                  Standing by and letting someone kill more when your action could’ve resulted in less makes you as culpable in the killing as Biden and Harris themselves.

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                    We’re standing by to let killing happen right now. I’m the one saying that’s unacceptable.