• Kecessa@sh.itjust.works
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    2 months ago

    I’m not voting for either since I’m not from the USA.

    What I’m saying is that the Zionists are a bigger % of Democrat electors than the pro Palestinians electors that are waiting on that to decide to get out and vote for the Democrats.

    If saying she’ll stop selling weapons to Israel means she’ll lose more votes than she’ll gain, what would be the political advantage to saying it? Maybe that’s exactly what she wants to do once elected, right now the goal is to make sure she’s elected in the first place though!

    Look at the pro Israel vs pro Palestine age distribution and then look at the % of people that don’t vote by age, you’ll realize that making promises to age groups that never bothers voting won’t win elections (and the groups that don’t vote never did, there’s nothing new to it).

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      2 months ago

      making promises to age groups that never bothers voting won’t win elections

      That’s a self-fulfilling justification for doing whatever you were already doing. Republicans don’t vote for Democrats either, but holy fuck do Democrats ever bend over backwards to please them anyway.

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        Thing is, even in places where there are parties that cater to the younger electors, they don’t come out to vote. Where I live 18-35 are under 50% with 65+ close to 80%, that’s with guaranteed 4h off work to vote and a left wing party that truly is left wing with younger candidates and other options all over the spectrum.

        Not all places only have two options but even with more choices young people don’t care about elections.

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          Thing is, even in places where there are parties that cater to the younger electors, they don’t come out to vote.

          When Biden stepped aside, young people registered to vote in greater numbers than when Taylor Swift told them to.

          Listening to young people generates enthusiasm. But that would be bad for people who support genocide for the love of genocide. And foreign actors trying to influence US foreign policy.

          Capitulating to Republicans gains nothing, but the party keeps doing it anyway.

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            2 months ago

            They registered, they have yet to vote.

            You’re allowed to look at examples from outside the US to form an opinion you know?

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              2 months ago

              You keep ignoring that Democrats have no problem addressing the concerns of people who don’t vote for them, provided those people are Republicans.

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                Because, again, they have more votes to gain there than on the left where it’s mostly younger people that won’t turn out to vote either way.

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                  Because, again, they have more votes to gain there

                  Those never materialize, but Democrats do it anyway. It’s almost like they want to move to the right and will use any excuse to.

                  than on the left where it’s mostly younger people that won’t turn out to vote either way.

                  Versus Republicans who overwhelmingly vote against Democrats every time. Yeah, you just want to move to the right since it means continuing support for genocide.

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                    Eh… They actually do materialize though…

                    https://www.npr.org/2024/08/20/nx-s1-5081167/republicans-for-harris-coalitions-have-launched-in-several-swing-states

                    And they’re reliable voters and there’s a lot of center right Democrats to lose that are reliable voters and the left has three choices anyway, not voting and letting Republicans win, voting Republican, voting Democrats.

                    You might not like it, that’s the system the US is stuck with.

                    Again, I’m not in the USA, I have no say in the matter, I just understand political strategy which seems like an issue with most left wing electors (because it goes against left with ideology and principles).