Was having clogging issues so I thought I’d replace and get the mythically good capricorn tubes. This is a good sign that I needed to.

  • SiblingNoah@lemmy.world
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    15 days ago

    What you’re seeing is the smaller inner diameter of the dark blue Capricorn. The light blue Capricorn would be similar to your current tubing.

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      15 days ago

      and even if it were worn down that much it wouldn’t cause any problem as the entire tube is made of the same slippery stuff, it’s not a coating.

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        14 days ago

        Would a larger inner diameter not cause the transmission of movement to be less direct due to bending and coiling inside the tube? This is probably mostly an issue in bowden systems

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          14 days ago

          The hysteresis that the tubing imparts on the movement of filament is negligible at best. We’re talking fractions of a millimeter of difference; and it’s something that can be accounted for in your retraction quite easily. Remember that this hobby is LITTERED with people trying to sell you stuff. Be critical in your observations, because even most YouTube channels will tell you that [X] thing is GREAT because if they don’t, they stop getting free shit.

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            13 days ago

            When it comes to pressure advance the difference between a bowden extruder and a direct extruder is more than tenfold. So no, it’s not “negligible at best”.

            If the difference was negligible no one would put the extruder on the toolhead where the weight has a big impact on maximum acceleration

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              14 days ago

              The tubing diameter difference is only fractions of a mm, and now you’re talking about a 100mm length along. You don’t need to measure it, it’s literally in the dimensions and tolerance info of the product.

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          14 days ago

          on a bowden system yes, but just ever so slightly. not any more than you could fix with retraction and other settings, and prolly only nylon and other flexible ones you should be doing in a direct dirve anyway would be affected.

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      15 days ago

      And if you’re doing direct drive the more constrained path wouldn’t be a benefit. I’ve already purchased wider ID tubing for my trident build.

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    14 days ago

    Tighter fitting tubing is actually likely to cause you more issues. It’s a myth that capricorn tubing is better in any way. In a way, you want a somewhat loose fitting tubing; especially if you’re cheaping out on PLA.

    So, say you’ve got a partial clog – The thing that usually happens is the feeder will skip/slip or tear into your filament. This causes the filament to go out of round, and can even push the sides of the filament out further than the tubing is wide. This causes the filament to then take more pressure to push through the tubing, adding to the already existing problem.

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      13 days ago

      It’s a myth that capricorn tubing is better in any way

      I’d call it “successful marketing” :) But yeah, they’re really managed to convince a lot of people that it has near magical properties, and I’ve seen a lot of random people recommend it to others for all sorts of issues.

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      13 days ago

      With direct drive, I would say it doesn’t make a difference.

      For bowden there is a benefit.

      I also think that direct drive is superior to Bowden setups in nearly every situation. The current generation like the Orbiter v3 is a very light direct-drive extruder.