• whoreticulture@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      8 months ago

      I’m looking at what the polling question actually is. Liberals, kinda by definition, don’t want the country to “get back on track” or return to a period of former greatness.

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        7 months ago

        I would agree we’re pretty far off the track. Remember when the biggest scandals were presidential blowies and tan suits?

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          7 months ago

          How about Watergate? There have always been scandals.

          Or on another note, how about when presidential blowies were a scandal, gay people couldn’t even get married? The appeal to an idealized past is a conservative thing.

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            7 months ago

            I’m not saying turn back the clock, I just want politics to stop being so… I mean marjorie taylor greene exists, for fucks sake.

            Also let’s be real, Watergate is tame in 2024. Hell, PRISM wasn’t even as big as Watergate and it was 100x worse.

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        7 months ago

        The liberals I know think it’s pretty off track. Specifically, it fell off the rails when Trump got elected.

        The track switch probably was thrown back in the 2000 election. We all hoped President Obama was gonna get us back on track.

        MAGA wants to revert the us to some racist 1950s version. Violence is basically required to achieve that vision.

        Liberals want to put the US back on track to equality, human rights and a secure future (see SCOTUS, for example of how off track the US is). We just don’t think violence is a good way to do take.

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          7 months ago

          I guess I wasn’t thinking about it that way, that “on track” could be that Democrats are imagining there was a time when liberal ideals were being actively worked towards. I don’t think that’s really true, but I now see that someone could think that way.

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        7 months ago

        So, are you a foreign operative, fascist or tankie?

        There’s no way educated native English speakers could be as far off in either reading comprehension, or understanding of US politics, as you are.

        Half these comments read like the Reddit PsyOps campaigns of 2016, and the vote counts indicate the same.