• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    10 months ago

    That poll was conducted back in October. A hell of a lot has changed since then, hasn’t it?

    … no?

    It isn’t the responsibility of progressives to build a winning coalition for Biden, that’s his job.

    Thanks for ignoring the entire point which is that further moves towards progressives further endanger Biden, the only viable current candidate against Trump. But hey, I’m sure your purity politics will be great comfort when LGBT people are being herded into camps, and you can say, “Well, I didn’t want to vote for GENOCIDE JOE!”

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      10 months ago

      … no?

      Lol, well… Yes? Do you really not think public sentiment has shifted since the October attack? The hospital bombings? The refugee bombings? The Palestinian death tolls? I guess you’re free to disagree, but I think i’d trust my more recent poll over the one that happened immediately following the 10/6 attack and before the Israeli response.

      I’m sure your purity politics will be great comfort when LGBT people are being herded into camps, and you can say, “Well, I didn’t want to vote for GENOCIDE JOE!”

      On the contrary, i’ll be railing against moderates like you who insisted on another milquetoast neoliberal dinosaur as the ONLY REALISTIC CANDIDATE when shit goes down, especially since I’ll have begrudgingly voted for him regardless after screaming for a more effective candidate for the last 16 years.

      Honestly, this has the same vibe as Elon’s “Earth will know twitter was killed by woke advertisers pulling support”. Nah bud, Biden will lose because he is the wrong fucking candidate. But hey, at least you can blame progressives for their light criticisms of Biden, amiright?

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        10 months ago

        Lol, well… Yes? Do you really not think public sentiment has shifted since the October attack? The hospital bombings? The refugee bombings? The Palestinian death tolls? I guess you’re free to disagree, but I think i’d trust my more recent poll over the one that happened immediately following the 10/6 attack and before the Israeli response.

        Your more recent poll is about approval of Biden’s response, not whether aid to Israel is acceptable, not enough, or too much. You do realize that right-wingers are going to disapprove of Biden’s-oh, why do I bother? You’ll read whatever you want into it.

        But I suppose I shouldn’t expect anything more from someone who thinks that purity politics and magical thinking is preferable to not seeing minorities in camps. But hey, at least you’ll keep claiming that it was actually the neoliberals’ fault for… not convincing the overwhelming majority of America to suddenly become leftists that are acceptable to your standards.

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          10 months ago

          But I suppose I shouldn’t expect anything more from someone who thinks that purity politics and magical thinking is preferable to not seeing minorities in camps

          I think policy actions that directly address the disenfranchisement of the working class is the most expedient way to prevent this. Hand waiving about “progressive policies alienating moderates” intentionally ignores how we got to the place to begin with, and all but guarantees a fascistic movement in the US.

          Moderates like you have created this problem, and blaming it on the people advocating to fix the underlying issue is yet another way you’re managing to drive people further into radicalism. But you do you bud.