Russian Artillery today, russian air defense yesterday, who’s left for the meat grinder?

Honest question, what’s left of their conventional forces if they’re sending specialists into meatwaves.

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    . Russia still has a healthy supply of infantry on the front

    LOL WHAT?

    They’re sending air defense artillery and tube artillery units to the front, hell they’re taking assholes off boats and turning them into meatwaves. They’re sending people into combat on crutches.

    https://militarywatchmagazine.com/article/kuznetsov-naval-infantry-kharkov

    https://www.cnn.com/2025/02/22/europe/russia-wounded-troops-frontline-latam-intl/

    https://newsukraine.rbc.ua/news/russia-prematurely-sending-wounded-soldiers-1738500144.html

    pray tell, where is this healthy supply of infantry?

    return home?

    you think any of these guys got cycled off the front? pfft, maybe in a bag

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/putin-terrified-of-threat-to-kremlin-when-russian-army-veterans-return-home/ar-AA1Asi0e

    Putin’s never going to let a large mass of soldiers return home lol

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/politics/international-relations/putin-terrified-of-threat-to-kremlin-when-russian-army-veterans-return-home/ar-AA1Asi0e

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      19 天前

      These are so obviously fluff. From what we know casualtie rates are similar with Ukraine having suffered a bit less. Active duty russia outnumbers Ukraine 880k to 1.1m. This is a pro Ukrainian analysis so the real numbers are likely to be worse.

      Ukraine is rotating off less and less and their active and inactive reserves are much lower than russia.

      This goes over troop counts https://www.cfr.org/in-brief/comparing-size-and-capabilities-russian-and-ukrainian-militaries

      The russia has a bottleneck on how many people they can conscript due to training services and support pipelines. Ukraine does not have that luxury.

      This isnt to say its over for Ukraine its just bringing a bit of reality back because i hate seeing people gloat as if Ukraine is wrecking russia when theyre actually being ground down in a losing war of attrition. Russia has adapted a lot since the start of the war they arent untrained teenagers being sent to the front with nothing anymore.

      This goes over the conscription in russia. Not very interesting. https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-force-generation-and-technological-adaptations-update-september-24-2025/

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        These are so obviously fluff.

        so you’re just going to say “disregard all the evidence provided, it’ doesn’t count”

        russia has been sending drunks and cripples to the front for over a year. bet you’re gonna ignore that too.

        Ukraine IS wrecking russia. day by day, hour by hour, they’ve destroyed a tremendous amount of their refining and oil transport infrastructure over the last six months.

        acting like none of this is happening is quite russian tho, cute.

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          19 天前

          I wish Ukraine was wrecking russia but its unfortunately not the case. They’ve done well to slow down the war and hold but holding still costs them lives and supplies.

          I can dismiss all your articles because they are fluff you can’t actually think they are of any informational value. Pointing at a handful of unverified examples and speculating on the troop count of the entire battlefield is dumb. Russia has over a million active duty soldiers they dont need to send specialists as grunts. As for sending wounded soldiers watch footage from Ukraine they are often wounded as well. 2000m to andrivka has a guy with 1 leg. The rate of killed vs wounded is like 1:5 so there are a shit ton of wounded soldiers who recover and head back out on both sides.

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            you really love rhetorical strawman arguments.

            because they are fluff you can’t actually think they are of any informational value.

            this says jack and shit. diddly squat. you refute my assertions… with NOTHING.

            Meanwhile, you continue to posit ridiculous ideas predicated on your deep history of volunteering supporting arguments in the form of… NOTHING.

            If you’re going to dismiss entire categories but provide zero evidence of your own I’m going to disregard you. Oh, already did.

            maybe you can convince the miles of idiots waiting for gas in russia and crimea that’s never going to come lol

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              18 天前

              Shocking how delusional some people are. None of what im saying is controversial.

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                18 天前

                shocking how some people assert they understand everything without providing an ounce of evidence to support their premise.

                do you have evidence that the RU petroleum system is doing fine lol?

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                  18 天前

                  Do you think I’m lying or wrong? Ive posted analysis that supports my claim. What do you think the troop counts are if I’m so wrong?

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                    you’re wrong. literally the links you use to support your argument undermine your premise.

                    https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-force-generation-and-technological-adaptations-update-september-24-2025/

                    “Belousov claimed that 97 percent of wounded Russian servicemen currently return to the battlefield and attributed this trend to new medical technologies and the employment of medical professionals on the battlefield. Russian military commanders, however, have been steadily committing wounded personnel into assault operations without proper prior medical treatment and neglecting to evacuate wounded personnel in time.”

                    how do you maintain forces in the field by sending wounded soldiers into meat wave assaults?

                    do you think they have battalions of fresh infantry just waiting in the hinterlands for the REAL conflict to start?

                    news flash sparky: shit didn’t get this bad in a vacuum. they’ve wrecked one of the largest armies in the world. it took years, but they’re sending ivan’s red legs as fucking ground pounder meatwaves. artillery, ada, fucking sailors - you don’t waste valuably trained assets like this as infantry unless you’re out of resources elsewhere.

                    now they’re out of diesel, not just unleaded. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-plans-partially-ban-diesel-exports-until-end-2025-ifx-reports-2025-09-25/

                    My only question is are you a paid shill or do you get off shitting on the obvious because it makes you cranky?

                    The war isn’t going to end tomorrow, but all of these developments - russia’s wastefulness, it’s desperation for human bodies, it’s crumbling SINGLE MAIN EXPORT INDUSTRY THAT LITERALLY SUPPORTS MOST OF THE ECONOMY, it’s secondary export economy - mercenaries and arms is no longer booming either lol…

                    Whatever. You do you.

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      Putin’s never going to let a large mass of soldiers return home lol

      Traditionally, letting a whole bunch of poorly treated, battle-hardened soldiers with a severe grudge against their leaders back into your country hasn’t gone well for said leaders. Letting them die in the field for little additional gains might be a strategic choice for Putin not suddenly finding himself in unexpected exile or “unexpected exile”

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      18 天前

      Remember when there were idiots saying The real russian army is on the other side of the urals?

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        haha yes, still waiting to see these units! imagine, they’ve been fighting with one arm behind their back this entire time because they’re terribly good sportsmen and 'tis only a special military operation, pfft.