Russian Artillery today, russian air defense yesterday, who’s left for the meat grinder?

Honest question, what’s left of their conventional forces if they’re sending specialists into meatwaves.

  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
    link
    fedilink
    English
    arrow-up
    1
    ·
    18 days ago

    shocking how some people assert they understand everything without providing an ounce of evidence to support their premise.

    do you have evidence that the RU petroleum system is doing fine lol?

    • Fizz@lemmy.nz
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      ·
      18 days ago

      Do you think I’m lying or wrong? Ive posted analysis that supports my claim. What do you think the troop counts are if I’m so wrong?

      • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
        link
        fedilink
        English
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        18 days ago

        you’re wrong. literally the links you use to support your argument undermine your premise.

        https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-force-generation-and-technological-adaptations-update-september-24-2025/

        “Belousov claimed that 97 percent of wounded Russian servicemen currently return to the battlefield and attributed this trend to new medical technologies and the employment of medical professionals on the battlefield. Russian military commanders, however, have been steadily committing wounded personnel into assault operations without proper prior medical treatment and neglecting to evacuate wounded personnel in time.”

        how do you maintain forces in the field by sending wounded soldiers into meat wave assaults?

        do you think they have battalions of fresh infantry just waiting in the hinterlands for the REAL conflict to start?

        news flash sparky: shit didn’t get this bad in a vacuum. they’ve wrecked one of the largest armies in the world. it took years, but they’re sending ivan’s red legs as fucking ground pounder meatwaves. artillery, ada, fucking sailors - you don’t waste valuably trained assets like this as infantry unless you’re out of resources elsewhere.

        now they’re out of diesel, not just unleaded. https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/russia-plans-partially-ban-diesel-exports-until-end-2025-ifx-reports-2025-09-25/

        My only question is are you a paid shill or do you get off shitting on the obvious because it makes you cranky?

        The war isn’t going to end tomorrow, but all of these developments - russia’s wastefulness, it’s desperation for human bodies, it’s crumbling SINGLE MAIN EXPORT INDUSTRY THAT LITERALLY SUPPORTS MOST OF THE ECONOMY, it’s secondary export economy - mercenaries and arms is no longer booming either lol…

        Whatever. You do you.

        • Fizz@lemmy.nz
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          ·
          17 days ago

          do you get off shitting on the obvious

          I hate the internet. So you know you’re completely wrong and you intentionally pretended to be an idiot to waste both of our time. You should have put that at the top I had already wasted time typing out my response.

          Good job dude you got me. I fell for the bait.

          • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
            link
            fedilink
            English
            arrow-up
            1
            ·
            17 days ago

            I hate the internet.

            I can see why. It’s gotta be frustrating to ignore all those salient facts and keep pushing that boulder of ignorance up the hill.

            I don’t think anything I’ve stated above is wrong - and provide ample evidence that russia is hurting, and desperate. the fact that you can see all these different sources and still come with the conclusion “russia’s fine” is simply delusional, to the point that you’re not a credible individual.

            Lash out, be petulant, stick your guns, ignore the evidence. Whatever.

            • Fizz@lemmy.nz
              link
              fedilink
              English
              arrow-up
              2
              ·
              17 days ago

              No you made plenty of claims that are wrong and your evidence is poor. You make the mistake of falling for feel good propaganda, little battlefield stories that make you think

              The only claim I care about making is that Russia’s troop count is still fine. They have enough supply in Ukraine to outnumber Ukrainians in most areas theyre contesting and to continue conducting offensive operations with little care for loss of life. Its delusional to think they’re running out of manpower on the brink or collapse. Manpower is their strongest asset and one of the few things russia has going for it.

              Its heading into winter so things are going to stagnate. Russia halting fuel exports shows that ukraines attacks have been having an impact but russia has reserves so we’re unlikely to see the impact in the short term. Russia is increasing their training pipeline “incase NATO attacks” but in reality its probably for another big sping offensive.

              • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
                link
                fedilink
                English
                arrow-up
                1
                arrow-down
                1
                ·
                17 days ago

                No you made plenty of claims that are wrong and your evidence is poor.

                still waiting for any shred of evidence that supports your argument. tick tock.

                The only claim I care about making is that Russia’s troop count is still fine.

                oh so the artillery and petroleum stuff doesn’t count, lol.

                They have enough supply in Ukraine to outnumber Ukrainians in most areas theyre contesting and to continue conducting offensive operations with little care for loss of life.

                if you count gimpy ivan on crutches trying to ride an ebike into the assault, sure, it’s ‘enough’.

                Russia halting fuel exports shows that ukraines attacks have been having an impact but russia has reserves

                if russia had reserves enough to matter they wouldn’t have miles of ivans waiting for fuel. if you can’t supply your civilian economy - especially diesel - AT HARVEST NO LESS - what good is any of it?

                There’s an entire economy running into the ground but you think everything’s A-OK.

                • Fizz@lemmy.nz
                  link
                  fedilink
                  English
                  arrow-up
                  2
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  17 days ago

                  You arent waiting for evidence. Ive already linked two good resources that report on the troop counts and neither of them mention or speculate a lack of manpower or foresee any Russian manpower issues.

                  Youre acting like I’m pro Russian for giving a realistic take on the state of the conflict. The rest of your comments are rambling schizo garbage.

                  • mojofrododojo@lemmy.worldOP
                    link
                    fedilink
                    English
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    ·
                    edit-2
                    17 days ago

                    tick tock…

                    I already explained how your two sources aren’t really supporting your argument. you ignored that response once, I’m sure you’ll ignore it again, but for anyone else who’d like to judge for themselves:

                    this is Fizz’s idea of ‘russia doesn’t have a manpower problem’:

                    https://understandingwar.org/research/russia-ukraine/russian-force-generation-and-technological-adaptations-update-september-24-2025/

                    “Belousov claimed that 97 percent of wounded Russian servicemen currently return to the battlefield and attributed this trend to new medical technologies and the employment of medical professionals on the battlefield. Russian military commanders, however, have been steadily committing wounded personnel into assault operations without proper prior medical treatment and neglecting to evacuate wounded personnel in time.”

                    how do you maintain forces in the field by sending wounded soldiers into meat wave assaults?

                    “Russia still has a healthy supply of infantry on the front and cycled off.”

                    for tens of thousands of mobilized, they have never been cycled off. that’s a gross fucking lie, they just keep getting jammed into the meatgrinder. if they fall out the side only partially ground up, they get picked up and put right back in.

                    not only is it a shitty, self defeating strategy, once your comrades in the shit see that behavior, everything else falls apart. the only motivation a russian soldier has is the squads who will execute them if they don’t press forward.

                    so fizz, I don’t think you’re a credible source in this discussion, I think you’re a child. Get out of your bedroom, hump a ruck some, gain some perspective. Ukraine is getting battered, badly, but russia still hasn’t won after years of pouring resources into this shit storm. wake the fuck up, or shut the fuck up.