• Macchi_the_Slime@piefed.blahaj.zone
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      The idea is he’s straining so hard because he’s trying to use the exact amount of force he needs to stop the train without harming anyone inside. Too much force on the train and everyone in the train gets injured or killed, too little and it doesn’t stop in time to save the kid, and I believe in this one he didn’t have the option of just grabbing the kid because he would have been hurt too badly from the sudden acceleration.

      If you’ve ever tried to assemble something where you’ve gotta snap together two pretty fragile pieces it’s a similar idea. You absolutely can generate way more than the force needed to get the job done, the difficulty is in having the pieces survive the attempt.

      I can tell you I have experienced it with models and computer components and you’d absolutely think I was arm wrestling a God with how much I was straining trying to push those parts together without breaking them.

      Edit again: I think I found where this is from. I guess it’s from Action Comics 1000 with the actual thing that’s happening being like a deja vu flashback of Superman’s comic history. Like the current canon Superman of the time is seeing flashes of things he personally hasn’t done but were part of the history of the character.

      So this would have been from a significantly less powerful Superman and was most likely a situation where the train was going to crash so stopping the train without hurting the people was the main goal with the kid wandering into the path of the train while he was already trying to keep the train from crashing

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          There’s a whole locomotive between them to dampen the impact.

          Same reason why modern cars are designed to crumple. It absorbs more of the impact before it reaches the people inside.

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            So only the first ten or so cars will be scenes of unbelievable carnage. Meanwhile, he could have simply picked up the kid and cushioned him from the impact.

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              So I did some more looking and it seems like this image is from a… basically a clip show of a “story” that’s going through the history of Superman.

              So in that context we’re likely looking at a significantly less powerful Superman earlier in his history. Which also means that the situation was likely that the train itself was going to crash and he’d been pushing on it for much longer with the kid having wandered into the tracks while he was in the middle of stopping the train.

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          Yes. In the opposite direction, gradually. It’s called deceleration. The mass of the train would spread the impact of Superman hitting and slowing it across the entire train, rather than the frame of a tiny human going from not very fast, to super man flying speed. At least that’s how I’m rationalizing it with rudimentary physics. I’m probably wrong.

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    Cpt. Obvious here: If he touched the child, a murder of Karens would descend upon him and release a shitstorm as if a black man walked past their dead, green painted front lawn.

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      Pretty sure it’s a Complaint of Karens. Or do you really associate the Karen with beautiful and intelligent crows?

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    Technically what Superman did was correct. Superman COULD scoop the child up and move him out of the way, but that sort of sudden acceleration would be a lot like getting hit by a train.

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      This is not like a falling kid problem…

      If he had more than 0.5 seconds to move the kid he could have moved him 1.5 meters without severely hurting him. On the other hand, if he had less than 0.5 seconds he’s now killed everyone on the train.

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      That goes for the people on the train too though. If he had so little time that he couldn’t move the kid 2 meters without giving him whiplash, then stopping the train in that same amount of time would send everybody on the train flying to the front of their cars at whatever speed the train was going.

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        Why are we assuming it’s a passenger train? It’s probably just a choice between a small child or a middle aged conductor who did survive according to the illustration if only because they decided to draw him in afterwards as a form of censorship.

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          I only assume that it’s not an autonomous train. And I’m not making any points about morality here, that sounds exhausting and I’d rather leave that to a lawyer or judge. I’m just saying, from a physics standpoint, moving the girl instead of stopping the training would’ve saved no fewer lives and not damaged any infrastructure. Just some constructive feedback Supes, I love what you’re doin ♥️♥️♥️

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          Please pardon me if I’m missing something obvious. I don’t understand how censorship is involved.

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            Well if they didn’t draw him in we’d all be assuming Superman murdered that guy just like user Oops just declared.

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              Okay, thank you. I didn’t understand your use of the word “censorship”. That’s not common usage in American English, which is all I speak.

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                Look, if you were to retroactively remove implications or references to morbidity, gore, and death then that would be censorship exactly how everyone uses the word.

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      It’s long been a fan Theory that Superman can cover some form of durability to the items he handles, otherwise a lot of the larger items he handles would crumble/collapse under their own weight, or people he carries would be crushed/chopped to chunks.

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        Didn’t they try to make something like that canon years ago? That Superman has some kind of field he extends to objects he touches that in part dampens some of the physics implications of the movements he’s shown to be able to do carrying objects and people that don’t immediately rip themselves apart from G forces? Or am I misremembering?

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      I read something about his old outfit suggesting that this was an early outing. Superman hadn’t quite worked out the physics/consequences of using his powers yet.

      Also, by the look on the conductor’s face, the train wasn’t moving very fast.

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      He did it all the time in movies tho.

      And the sudden deceleration of that train mean whoever in that train is not gonna have a good time lol