Anon, tell me you’ve never read Sappho without saying “I never read Sappho”:
Some say an army of horsemen,
some of footsoldiers, some of ships,
is the fairest thing on the black earth,
but I say it is what one loves.
It’s very easy to make this clear
to everyone, for Helen,
by far surpassing mortals in beauty,
left the best of all husbands
and sailed to Troy,
mindful of neither her child
nor her dear parents, but
with one glimpse she was seduced by
Aphrodite. For easily bent...
and nimbly...[missing text]...
has reminded me now
of Anactoria who is not here;
I would much prefer to see the lovely
way she walks and the radiant glance of her face
than the war-chariots of the Lydians or
their footsoldiers in arms.
This was translated from Ancient Greek. Of course it won’t rhyme; Ancient Greek poetry is based on foot and pitch, not rhymes. And even if it used rhymes the translation would butcher them.
Calling it garbage because it doesn’t rhyme is like looking at a translation of Shakespeare into Japanese, and saying it’s garbage because Shakespeare was a functional illiterate that couldn’t count morae.
Regardless, the poem already shows a woman talking about romantic love around 600 BCE. It’s already enough to tear apart what Anon is saying. Insert mentions of patriarchy here.
You might be right but you also come across as a pedantic snobby culture bro asshole. Shove up your Greek knowledge up your giant ass… if you want to share knowledge do it kindly… arrogance is not a good method to share knowledge you muppet.
Your comment is funny so I’ll answer it, even if I typically would ignore shit like this. Quotes are out of order.
if you want to share knowledge do it kindly…
Did I, in any moment, insult MacN’Cheesus (the OP)? Nope. I didn’t even criticise him; I’m saying Anon (the 4chan poster) got things wrong. OP is just sharing it.
I’m not even assuming ignorance from his part; note how I outright said “if you’re joking” (implied: “you might know this, and you might be saying what you say just for the sake of a joke, dunno”).
I’ll go further. OP, if you felt insulted in any moment by my comments ITT, I apologise.
…but perhaps I’m being unkind towards Anon, in 4chan? Even if he were to read the shit I wrote, not really. I’m focusing on the matter, not the person. I didn’t even call him an incel, even this shit he’s saying is incel tier.
So cut off the crap and stop being a liar. Until now, I wasn’t unkind towards anyone here dammit.
You’re being also a hypocrite:
Shove up your Greek knowledge up your giant ass…
If you’re so eager to vomit “be kind!” towards the others, make sure to lick your own vomit once it hits the floor. Follow what you preach.
but you also come across as a pedantic snobby culture bro asshole.
“Come across”? So you aren’t accusing me of “being” an arsehole; you’re whining because of how things look like??? Pfffthahaha.
Let’s say I am a [Ctrl+C Ctrl+V] “pedantic snobby culture bro asshole”. Still better than being a whiny, little and pathetic thing, who writes like a kid almost ready to cry, and whose comment boils down to a huge “WAAAH, THIS HURTS MY FEE FEES”, all because someone else shared stuff about an obscure topic that is related to the OP.
Cry me a river.
[inb4: whiner starts assuming things about my emotions. I’m not going to read it, so… who cares.]
IDC how old or important it is, I’m not inspired by this drivel. “I would rather see the shape of a lovely woman than a bunch of soldiers and war chariots”? Pfft, you and everyone else. Get in line.
But not the battle addicts of her times. They’d rather see a bunch of sweaty men, fighting “FOR GLORY!”, demonstrating their power. I guess nowadays you’d replace it with a car or some other status symbol? And that’s literally what they sung about, look at the Illiad. She was probably one of the first poets to say “screw all this shit, the I want to see my beloved’s face, the way she walks, she captured me like she was some goddess in an epic story.”
Not true at all. I’ve even suggested a song of the caliber I’m looking for (I Will Always Love You, originally by Dolly Parton but made famous by Whitney Houston).
I’m merely defending anon’s assertion that the vast majority of great love songs are written by men.
Anon, tell me you’ve never read Sappho without saying “I never read Sappho”:
Of course they haven’t read Sappho, they only read Shaprio of some Ben.
Aww, what a lovely thing to write about your best friend!
/s
I remember a comm about this.
That doesn’t even rhyme. Garbage.
In case you are not joking:
This was translated from Ancient Greek. Of course it won’t rhyme; Ancient Greek poetry is based on foot and pitch, not rhymes. And even if it used rhymes the translation would butcher them.
Calling it garbage because it doesn’t rhyme is like looking at a translation of Shakespeare into Japanese, and saying it’s garbage because Shakespeare was a functional illiterate that couldn’t count morae.
Regardless, the poem already shows a woman talking about romantic love around 600 BCE. It’s already enough to tear apart what Anon is saying. Insert mentions of patriarchy here.
If you’re joking: derp.
You might be right but you also come across as a pedantic snobby culture bro asshole. Shove up your Greek knowledge up your giant ass… if you want to share knowledge do it kindly… arrogance is not a good method to share knowledge you muppet.
Your comment is funny so I’ll answer it, even if I typically would ignore shit like this. Quotes are out of order.
Did I, in any moment, insult MacN’Cheesus (the OP)? Nope. I didn’t even criticise him; I’m saying Anon (the 4chan poster) got things wrong. OP is just sharing it.
I’m not even assuming ignorance from his part; note how I outright said “if you’re joking” (implied: “you might know this, and you might be saying what you say just for the sake of a joke, dunno”).
I’ll go further. OP, if you felt insulted in any moment by my comments ITT, I apologise.
…but perhaps I’m being unkind towards Anon, in 4chan? Even if he were to read the shit I wrote, not really. I’m focusing on the matter, not the person. I didn’t even call him an incel, even this shit he’s saying is incel tier.
So cut off the crap and stop being a liar. Until now, I wasn’t unkind towards anyone here dammit.
You’re being also a hypocrite:
If you’re so eager to vomit “be kind!” towards the others, make sure to lick your own vomit once it hits the floor. Follow what you preach.
“Come across”? So you aren’t accusing me of “being” an arsehole; you’re whining because of how things look like??? Pfffthahaha.
Let’s say I am a [Ctrl+C Ctrl+V] “pedantic snobby culture bro asshole”. Still better than being a whiny, little and pathetic thing, who writes like a kid almost ready to cry, and whose comment boils down to a huge “WAAAH, THIS HURTS MY FEE FEES”, all because someone else shared stuff about an obscure topic that is related to the OP.
Cry me a river.
[inb4: whiner starts assuming things about my emotions. I’m not going to read it, so… who cares.]
The guy he answered is showing a worse persona than your description throughout this whole thread and you haven’t really shown any kindness yourself.
Also you being insecure and uncultured doesn’t automatically make others around you pedantic and snobby.
IDC how old or important it is, I’m not inspired by this drivel. “I would rather see the shape of a lovely woman than a bunch of soldiers and war chariots”? Pfft, you and everyone else. Get in line.
But not the battle addicts of her times. They’d rather see a bunch of sweaty men, fighting “FOR GLORY!”, demonstrating their power. I guess nowadays you’d replace it with a car or some other status symbol? And that’s literally what they sung about, look at the Illiad. She was probably one of the first poets to say “screw all this shit, the I want to see my beloved’s face, the way she walks, she captured me like she was some goddess in an epic story.”
So her claim to fame is that she is more gay than the rest of ancient Greece?
IDK man, let’s see the poems men wrote about those soldiers and their glistening biceps before making a call here, shall we?
This too. She was so gay her whole island became synonymous with women being gay. (She was from Lesbos.)
Perhaps Achilles loved Patroclus a bit too much… waitaminute…
This was a funny joke until I realized it wasnt a joke
What makes you say that? I’m fully reading his replies as jokes
OP is spending the whole thread trying to argue that no woman has ever written a good love song. It’s honestly a really weird hill to die on.
Not true at all. I’ve even suggested a song of the caliber I’m looking for (I Will Always Love You, originally by Dolly Parton but made famous by Whitney Houston).
I’m merely defending anon’s assertion that the vast majority of great love songs are written by men.