I didn’t think that this needed to be specified, but since anon is talking about men’s love for women, we’re looking for love songs written by women about men here. Sorry, but Sappho doesn’t count.
I submit, for your consideration, ‘I will always love you’ by Dolly Parton, as one example; the many works of Emily Dickinson; and probably a non-zero number of works attributed to men (Such as the Brönte Sisters) since women have not been socially allowed to benefit from the arts until reletively recently.
Name one fucking song that anyone would recognize. Something like Bon Jovi’s Always or Meat Loaf’s I Would Do Anything For Love, or Elvis Presley’s I Can’t Help Falling In Love With You. Just one gut-wrenching, tear duct triggering love song written by a woman.
I find it so interesting, that you seem to be under the impression that men are framed as evil by supposed feminists, yet denounce the work of a women if they worked with a man, as if the man being in the picture delegitemises the women’s sincerity and work. Isn’t cooperation regardless of gender what brings equality? Isn’t it unrealistic to expect anyone from never interacting with someone of the male gender in their career? I don’t think we should denounce the work of women for doing that, especially when looking at music from the past century, when women didn’t have the right to choose a career without a man’s permission
This isn’t as puzzling as you make it out to be. The whole point of feminism is claiming that women are just as capable and competent as men. So why do most of them seem to need help from men to write successful songs?
Now I’m certainly not saying that women lack talent as a whole (Whitney Houston’s I Will Always Love You was written by Dolly Parton originally, so clearly is possible for women to produce a megahit love song), it’s just that extreme talent seems to be more common in men. What seems to be lacking is women’s ability to recognize and appreciate that in men, and that’s the point I believe anon was trying to make.
Well Emmylou wrote the lyrics to it. And OMG it is a tearjerker so full of emotion.
I personally wouldn’t argue the main point (men are way more into the trappings of “romance” than women are) because that’s been my experience too. But there have been historical barriers to entry for women in the arts.
Kacey Muskgraves writes some sweet love songs (also more country like the other 2) .
Maybe cultural too, Spanish chanteuses sing a lot about love, more than I hear in other American pop music.
Literally anything by Violeta Parra. Lhasa de Sela is another favorite. You gotta break out of only English-language songs. (But also people are just giving you some basic-ass examples.)
OP doesn’t want to learn, just wants to confirm his preconceived notions. I’m actually pretty sure he’s the anon who composed the green text, and if not he wishes he had. Note his examples are not only exclusively English language but most are from the 80s or later.
Who are these people? Guy asked you for legendary and you went niche. There are plenty of talented women that have written and performed legendary songs that you could have chosen.
But I am sorry for defending him. He seems like an incel himself and kind of a dick.
How many women have written a legendary love song?
ahem Call Me Maybe?
Whitney Houston was right there, man
Well she is every woman…
That was Ashford and Simpson, who wrote it for Chaka Khan. One of whom is a man.
Co-written with a man, sadly.
Always preferred Guitar String from CRJ.
Someone quoted Sappho earlier, love poetry written by a woman that has lasted 2500 years, and you shat on that.
There’s plenty of work written by women using male pseudonyms because women were forbidden to write.
There’s a lot of other writing by women that was simply suppressed for the same reason.
I didn’t think that this needed to be specified, but since anon is talking about men’s love for women, we’re looking for love songs written by women about men here. Sorry, but Sappho doesn’t count.
Dido, Thank you.
Good song, but made famous by a man. Also co-written by a man.
I submit, for your consideration, ‘I will always love you’ by Dolly Parton, as one example; the many works of Emily Dickinson; and probably a non-zero number of works attributed to men (Such as the Brönte Sisters) since women have not been socially allowed to benefit from the arts until reletively recently.
Edit: see below comment, updated with Dolly.
At Last was written by two men and originally performed by a man.
You got me. Fortunately, I don’t need to look very hard to find a replacement.
Also, Beyoncé Taylor Swift Joan Baez Stevie Nicks Joni Mitchell Carole King Dolly Parton
I could list more but it seems clear from your comments you don’t actually want an answer to the question.
Name one fucking song that anyone would recognize. Something like Bon Jovi’s Always or Meat Loaf’s I Would Do Anything For Love, or Elvis Presley’s I Can’t Help Falling In Love With You. Just one gut-wrenching, tear duct triggering love song written by a woman.
Jonie Mitchell Case of You
Emmylou Harris Boulder to Birmingham
ETA holy crap how did I forget Christine McVie of Fleetwood Mac? She wrote a lot of their more poignant love songs.
Never heard of either, and the second song was co-written by a man, but I’ll say Joni Mitchell counts.
Those goalposts are like ten miles from where your started eh?
Not really. Anon claimed 99% of love songs were WRITTEN by men, didn’t he?
I’m really starting to suspect anon is you.
I find it so interesting, that you seem to be under the impression that men are framed as evil by supposed feminists, yet denounce the work of a women if they worked with a man, as if the man being in the picture delegitemises the women’s sincerity and work. Isn’t cooperation regardless of gender what brings equality? Isn’t it unrealistic to expect anyone from never interacting with someone of the male gender in their career? I don’t think we should denounce the work of women for doing that, especially when looking at music from the past century, when women didn’t have the right to choose a career without a man’s permission
This isn’t as puzzling as you make it out to be. The whole point of feminism is claiming that women are just as capable and competent as men. So why do most of them seem to need help from men to write successful songs?
Now I’m certainly not saying that women lack talent as a whole (Whitney Houston’s I Will Always Love You was written by Dolly Parton originally, so clearly is possible for women to produce a megahit love song), it’s just that extreme talent seems to be more common in men. What seems to be lacking is women’s ability to recognize and appreciate that in men, and that’s the point I believe anon was trying to make.
Patricarchy.
If the only tool you have is feminism, every problem looks like the patriarchy.
Well Emmylou wrote the lyrics to it. And OMG it is a tearjerker so full of emotion.
I personally wouldn’t argue the main point (men are way more into the trappings of “romance” than women are) because that’s been my experience too. But there have been historical barriers to entry for women in the arts.
Kacey Muskgraves writes some sweet love songs (also more country like the other 2) .
Maybe cultural too, Spanish chanteuses sing a lot about love, more than I hear in other American pop music.
Literally anything by Violeta Parra. Lhasa de Sela is another favorite. You gotta break out of only English-language songs. (But also people are just giving you some basic-ass examples.)
OP doesn’t want to learn, just wants to confirm his preconceived notions. I’m actually pretty sure he’s the anon who composed the green text, and if not he wishes he had. Note his examples are not only exclusively English language but most are from the 80s or later.
Who are these people? Guy asked you for legendary and you went niche. There are plenty of talented women that have written and performed legendary songs that you could have chosen.
But I am sorry for defending him. He seems like an incel himself and kind of a dick.
Those are not songs, those are just names. And I’ve never heard of them before.
Hayley Williams (Frontwoman of Paramore)
I couldn’t name one of their songs if my life depended on it.
Your ignorance does not make a convincing argument.
It does when it comes down to popularity.
Just keep swimming
Among others
Which of these is supposed to be a love song?
All of them
Imo, Bad Romance is pretty fuckin legendary.
Co-written by a man. Also, do I really need to explain what’s wrong with it?
What? That it’s too much of a banger?
Ra, ra, ah-ah-ah Roma, roma-ma Gaga, ooh-la-la
Need I say more?
This is a love song a cockroach would write to bait.
Someone isn’t getting enough leather-studded kisses in the sand 😘
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Tswift?
I thought she made breakup songs
Breakup songs are love songs
I assumed if you make enough breakup songs eventually you got to make one about the “love” part of a relationship
Same