There is no alternative, really. Lots of Ukrainians will die under Russian rulership and live as second and third class citizens. That, and Ukrainians won’t fight to the last Ukrainian because Russia has demonstrated it doesn’t have the power to win this war, they’re just throwing a finite supply of meat into a grinder.
@Aqarius@finitebanjo
Nobody asked you what you like. Why? Because it’s immaterial to the question of will Ukraine capitulate. It will not. Not for Trump, not for putin. Not for weapons or promises or treaties. You can’t promise Putin his own people will not execute him, so the coward has no choice but to throw away a life for every acre of territory that cannot be kept.
Ruzzia is already a Chinese vassal state, so in a real sense it’s already lost the war no matter what happens next.
Is it? Are you really unable to imagine a better longterm path than “keep the war going until the enemy is destroyed”?
Liberty is all fine and good, but it has to be “give me”, not “give them”. I dislike the idea of people getting killed for chickenhawk fantasies.
There is no alternative, really. Lots of Ukrainians will die under Russian rulership and live as second and third class citizens. That, and Ukrainians won’t fight to the last Ukrainian because Russia has demonstrated it doesn’t have the power to win this war, they’re just throwing a finite supply of meat into a grinder.
So, in your mind, the only available options are “Ukraine under Russian rulership” and “Russia ceases to exist”?
Well no, but in defence of that sentiment Russia has violated dozens of ceasefires.
@Aqarius @finitebanjo
Nobody asked you what you like. Why? Because it’s immaterial to the question of will Ukraine capitulate. It will not. Not for Trump, not for putin. Not for weapons or promises or treaties. You can’t promise Putin his own people will not execute him, so the coward has no choice but to throw away a life for every acre of territory that cannot be kept.
Ruzzia is already a Chinese vassal state, so in a real sense it’s already lost the war no matter what happens next.