In all seriousness, getting an internship is key for a lot of industries now. And if you can’t be a paid internship, you should at least see if you can get college credit.
I was lucky enough to figure out how to get both credit and a shitty paycheck. Which was the ideal internship.
Absolutely. If you’re in college, an internship is ideal.
And yet, the number of times I had to talk a manager off a ledge about an internship candidate without relevant experience…
This after they’d been through 2-3 rounds of coding challenges and a “culture fit” check.
So put something on your resume. Maybe you were a “support tech in a Linux server environment” for 3 years because you helped your grandparent with a router a few times. We weren’t calling references. And your coworkers will know and expect you are green.
I think it’s easy for them to fall into a trap where they artificially inflate the requirements just because there is interest in the position.
So in a sense, yes, they’ve lost touch.
They also forget that every year, the “best” interviewees use them as a practice round and leverage for a more prestigious company. Inevitably, they chase unicorns at the expense of everything else. Every year, 3 colleges, hundreds of hours of interview rounds for 10-15 positions and they’d end up with 3-5 that actually started the paid internship.
I am a chemical engineer, and they basically don’t want to hire anyone without 2-3 years of post graduate experience and even then the majority of jobs seem to want more than 5 years of post graduate experience. Every year I watch the amount of entry level jobs drop more and more as companies just don’t want to train people anymore
Apparently you’re supposed to get that experience as an unpaid intern before graduation. Some fucking bullshit, really.
In all seriousness, getting an internship is key for a lot of industries now. And if you can’t be a paid internship, you should at least see if you can get college credit.
I was lucky enough to figure out how to get both credit and a shitty paycheck. Which was the ideal internship.
Absolutely. If you’re in college, an internship is ideal.
And yet, the number of times I had to talk a manager off a ledge about an internship candidate without relevant experience…
This after they’d been through 2-3 rounds of coding challenges and a “culture fit” check.
So put something on your resume. Maybe you were a “support tech in a Linux server environment” for 3 years because you helped your grandparent with a router a few times. We weren’t calling references. And your coworkers will know and expect you are green.
So managers are just insanely detached from reality?
I think it’s easy for them to fall into a trap where they artificially inflate the requirements just because there is interest in the position.
So in a sense, yes, they’ve lost touch.
They also forget that every year, the “best” interviewees use them as a practice round and leverage for a more prestigious company. Inevitably, they chase unicorns at the expense of everything else. Every year, 3 colleges, hundreds of hours of interview rounds for 10-15 positions and they’d end up with 3-5 that actually started the paid internship.
I am a chemical engineer, and they basically don’t want to hire anyone without 2-3 years of post graduate experience and even then the majority of jobs seem to want more than 5 years of post graduate experience. Every year I watch the amount of entry level jobs drop more and more as companies just don’t want to train people anymore