• banditbananas@retrolemmy.com
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    4 days ago

    I switched to Linux and it is “too complicated.” Imo. There are a lot of compromises you have to make when you switch. I couldn’t even get my first couple distros to work because they don’t play nice with Nvidia.

    I switched to bazzite because it would actually work graphically and I mostly only use steam anyway, but it isn’t all rainbows. I feel like I’m always switching Proton versions to get a game to load. I use Proton db, but idk I still have issues. GoG I use heroic and have the same problems. Also, installing software is a pain. It’s not that hard to use CLI but I get sick of it when I just want my shit to work with 2 clicks. Ive tried to run windows apps wlbut just gave that up. Also getting used to the folder structure and placements take time.

    Plus, I can’t seem to Google (or whatever) my problems. The help you get in Linux forums is usually " just switch to insert distro".

    I’ve worked IT jobs for about 10 years so I feel like I have some knowledge, but Linux has stumped me a couple times already. How is an non-tech person supposed to just switch?

    I’ll never go back to Windows but you can’t expect people to leave something that works for something that they have to fumble with to get working.

    • sean_lemmy@sh.itjust.works
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      4 days ago

      Bro, Linux has GUI software installers.

      Proton is a hack to run Windows game on Linux. Of course it’s not dead simple

      Non-tech people who don’t game would be fine with something like Ubuntu or Mint.

      Gaming is complicated because 98% of games are built for windows and then use Proton to try to translate (which is currently just built into Steam and then unofficial launchers like Heroic)

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      4 days ago

      When using bazzite you can use fedora instead as that’s the basis. It should help with hitting more results.

      What exactly are you installing through the CLI? They have an app store where you can find ( most? Probably? ) of the stuff you’re looking for.

      You can use the CLI to find flatpacks and install them. And as a power user, sure why not. But if you’re not comfortable with it, why not use the GUI?

      What games are you playing that are causing you issues? I don’t think I’ve had any game issues using the latest proton version , but most of the games I’ve played recently arent very old.

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        4 days ago

        Yup. I usually search fedora when I’m looking stuff up. Usually, that helps but only so much.

        I was installing mullvad. I didn’t see it listed in any store repo I had so I used cli. It’s not hard to do, but it was annoying getting the syntax correct because the instructions were for fedora but they didn’t completely translate to bazzite. Probably because bazzite is half locked down or something.

        Games causing me issues were Elden Ring, Resident evil 4 Remake, and Black Mesa (I thought this would work right out the box, but it didn’t). They would usually launch then just close immediately. Eventually, I got the right Proton version that seems to work, but then I had issues downloading my cloud saves.

        I see a lot of people are still giving me the “it just works out the box” talk, so idk. Maybe I shouldn’t have reformatted my ntfs drive and just got a new one, but I didn’t want to give up a 1tb ssd for no reason.

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          Eeeeh. I’m glad it’s working out of the box for all those people then. But that doesn’t really help you out.

          Unfortunately I don’t own any of these games so I can’t test it to see if I could help out. Bizarre that you’re running into issues considering the games I checked are steam deck verified. Black Mesa people mention using the proton rather than the native ( Linux ) version.

          If mullvad is wireguard based you can always import the wireguard config in your network manager and connect that way. It’s what I did for my VPN. Downside is that you won’t be able to use any features the app would offer you ( besides the VPN connection ).

          Sorry I can’t be of more help. :(

    • Bob Robertson IX @discuss.tchncs.de
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      4 days ago

      I think setting up linux as a gaming machine is more advanced than most people would be able to handle right now, but I was referring more to just general computer usage. I was able to install PopOS on a 13 year old MacBook the other day and the most difficult part was getting the iso setup as a bootable USB drive - and even that wasn’t too hard. Although, to be fair, I think anyone who has problems doing an install of linux would also have a problem doing an install of Windows.