yeah thats what we need, to protect an already over-protected class of people.
you want to increase hatred for cops? this is how you increase hatred for cops.
Pretty sure my hate meter is maxed for cops.
im somewhat torn in that i worked with many. these are fellow human beings… but all the bad stuff is true. there are handfuls of good cops here and there but there are absolutely bad cops almost everywhere, and theres nothing the ‘good’ cops can seemingly do about the bad cops without ‘outing’ themselves.
hence, acab.
the system is broken. it attracts both the worst and the best and turns them all into garbage.
One bad apple spoils the bunch.
Just expanded my hate meter to accomodate my new levels of cop hate.
“This one goes to eleven.”
“Why don’t you just make ten more angry?”
“… This one goes to eleven.”
They dont care how much hate the police receive. They just need to protect the fascism enforcers.
Yes, that is exactly what they’re trying to do.
The former would expand the definition of “crime victims” to include “law enforcement officers, correctional officers, or correctional probation officers who use deadly force in the course and scope of their employment or official duties.”
Republicans want to redefine cops who use deadly force as victims? Color me doubleplusunshocked.
Deadly force may only be used to stop a credible, criminal, imminent, threat of death or grievous bodily harm.
If you kill me while I am in the process of attacking you, you are, indeed, my victim, whether you are a random individual, or a sworn officer. The fact that I am the one who dies during that encounter does not mean that I am the victim.
Edit: Do people really not know the circumstances under which force may be used? Does the general public not understand the 6 conditions that must be met before lethal force can be justified?
- Reasonable Person
- Credible Threat
- Criminal Threat
- Imminent Threat
- Severe Threat
- Necessity
Cops don’t get some special exception to this. These are the legal standards that they must abide by when using lethal force.
The bill defines all cops or correctional officers who use deadly force on duty as victims. Not just those who kill someone in the specific circumstance that you described.
Self defense and defense of others are the only circumstances where police can justifiably use lethal force. Self defense, they are clearly the victim. Defense of others, I would argue they deserve the same protections as the victim.
The bill doesn’t protect other, non-justifiable uses of force.
LMFAO what about shooting sleeping civillians through a closed door at the wrong house? What about kneeling on someone’s neck as they slowly die screaming and gasping for air? What about spraying naked detained elderly women with scalding water until they burn to death? What about shooting more dogs every day than an average person will even even meet in their lives?
You act like this bullshit list is actually EVER followed by any cop in any situation. You act as though cops who DON’T follow this list are punished for murdering innocent civilians without following this bullshit process.
Fuck you and your boot licking ass.
LMFAO what about shooting sleeping civillians through a closed door at the wrong house
Not protected.
What about kneeling on someone’s neck as they slowly die screaming and gasping for air?
Not protected.
What about spraying naked detained elderly women with scalding water until they burn to death
Not protected.
What about shooting more dogs every day than an average person will even even meet in their lives?
Not protected.
This bill does not protect officers in any of the scenarios you describe. None of these scenarios describe self defense or defense of others. None of these uses of force are justifiable.
Also not protected is an officer mistaking an acorn for a gunshot and unloading his weapon into the back of his own cruiser, with a handcuffed suspect in the back.
ALL OF THESE USES OF FORCE HAVE ALREADY BEEN FOUND JUSTIFIABLE YOU ABSOLUTE BOOT LICKING MORON.
In every case you described, officers were charged and prosecuted. Some were convicted, some were acquitted. None of them would have been protected under Marsy’s law.
Stop holding pockets.
No, the general public is aware that cops are protected regardless of if these criteria are met. So are you.
Protecting Cops that MURDER CHILDREN is how we Protect The Children!
So the safe assumption is that any given officer in Florida is a murderer.
So the safe assumption is that any given officer
in Floridais a murderer.
Fascists gonna fash
ACAB
So basically the laws are unconstitutional in the same way that arrest records and voting registration details are in the public domain in Florida.
What a great idea! said no one. ever.
