The mirror thing is exclusive to the Analyst’s version of the Matrix that we see in Resurrections. “Io” is their new home after Zion was destroyed.
Ah!
Ok, ok, that makes sense… I have not committed the 4th movie to memory anywhere near as much as I have with the OT era stuff.
I think there was an interview with one of the Wachowskis that implied the liquid mirror was just Neo’s reality bending experience. Other people may experience different types of hallucinations, and even other people in the room may not see what their hallucination is. They are probably just observed to fade out into code like when they use a telephone.
I remember that as well, and I agree that your minor extraploation at the end seems likely.
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I appreciate you expanding on the details I forgot =P
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Though I would add that the Animatrix shows that the uh, exiting the Matrix phenomenon… may be different for self-substantiators… the Kid is reported as dead after his ‘leap of faith’.
IIRC, there are scenes of an actual funeral? His parents mourn him as dead? Its a whole local news phenomenon that he ‘suicided’?
It could be that his uh… Matrix-physical? body did not evaporate into code…
…or it could be that the Matrix / the Agents executed an elaborate coverup, that the Kid’s ‘body’ did ‘code evaporate’, and they just whipped up a doppleganger body and gaslit/intimidated the hell out of any witnesses of the body ‘evaporating’, faked all the media coverage, etc.
Interesting. Perhaps your original image stays behind as a dead body, and jacking in is a more ethereal connection. Or maybe it takes a while for the system to recognise your not in your pod and treats you as a natural death.
Like uh… if you go with more of the ‘your local connection to the Matrix.exe has crashed’ intepretation…
In video games, you’ll sometimes get a player character who is badly lagging that just uh, freezes, or gets stuck in some nonsense continuous repetiton of their last valid inputs…
???
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The Kid actually permanently gets out, and is recovered, ends up in Zion.
Not sure what happens to his ‘body’.
The sprinter does not get out, his ‘body’ does remain.
The sprinter basically runs so fucking hard that he … well his ‘hallucination exit experience’ is that he sort of… runs through the code of the matrix itself, which collapses around him… then he wakes up in the pod, then a machine comes up to him and basically zaps the fuck out of him, and he blacks out.
Meanwhile, while that is going on in the real world…
In the matrix, he basically either flatlines or goes into a coma, and its kinda like the video game analogy, his digital avatar just ragdolls and tumbles across the finish line in a very grotesque manner… but he does win that World Record…
Then, he later wakes up, in the Matrix, in a hospital, mostly paralyzed, seemingly brain damaged… but he has moments where … he remembers this reality is all bullshit, and… can again transcend his ‘Matrix-physical’ broken body… and walk out of his wheelchair, I think even levitate.
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So… maybe put that all together, and if you self substantiate, the code evaporation thing doesn’t happen, because that effect is some kind of intrinsic to whatever the humans of Zion are Io are using to literally hack you out of the Matrix?
In MxO, you functionally had a ‘mage’ class by way of all the various ‘Hacker’ skill trees and branches.
The way thats depicted is uh… instead of punching or shooting someone… they just make hand motions like they are typing, a hologram of a keyboard appears, and then your opponent suffers some debuff, with similarly styled ‘code stream’ effects on them.
Ah!
Ok, ok, that makes sense… I have not committed the 4th movie to memory anywhere near as much as I have with the OT era stuff.
I remember that as well, and I agree that your minor extraploation at the end seems likely.
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I appreciate you expanding on the details I forgot =P
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Though I would add that the Animatrix shows that the uh, exiting the Matrix phenomenon… may be different for self-substantiators… the Kid is reported as dead after his ‘leap of faith’.
IIRC, there are scenes of an actual funeral? His parents mourn him as dead? Its a whole local news phenomenon that he ‘suicided’?
It could be that his uh… Matrix-physical? body did not evaporate into code…
…or it could be that the Matrix / the Agents executed an elaborate coverup, that the Kid’s ‘body’ did ‘code evaporate’, and they just whipped up a doppleganger body and gaslit/intimidated the hell out of any witnesses of the body ‘evaporating’, faked all the media coverage, etc.
Interesting. Perhaps your original image stays behind as a dead body, and jacking in is a more ethereal connection. Or maybe it takes a while for the system to recognise your not in your pod and treats you as a natural death.
I… I don’t know.
It could go either way?
Like uh… if you go with more of the ‘your local connection to the Matrix.exe has crashed’ intepretation…
In video games, you’ll sometimes get a player character who is badly lagging that just uh, freezes, or gets stuck in some nonsense continuous repetiton of their last valid inputs…
???
…
The Kid actually permanently gets out, and is recovered, ends up in Zion.
Not sure what happens to his ‘body’.
The sprinter does not get out, his ‘body’ does remain.
The sprinter basically runs so fucking hard that he … well his ‘hallucination exit experience’ is that he sort of… runs through the code of the matrix itself, which collapses around him… then he wakes up in the pod, then a machine comes up to him and basically zaps the fuck out of him, and he blacks out.
Meanwhile, while that is going on in the real world…
In the matrix, he basically either flatlines or goes into a coma, and its kinda like the video game analogy, his digital avatar just ragdolls and tumbles across the finish line in a very grotesque manner… but he does win that World Record…
Then, he later wakes up, in the Matrix, in a hospital, mostly paralyzed, seemingly brain damaged… but he has moments where … he remembers this reality is all bullshit, and… can again transcend his ‘Matrix-physical’ broken body… and walk out of his wheelchair, I think even levitate.
…
So… maybe put that all together, and if you self substantiate, the code evaporation thing doesn’t happen, because that effect is some kind of intrinsic to whatever the humans of Zion are Io are using to literally hack you out of the Matrix?
In MxO, you functionally had a ‘mage’ class by way of all the various ‘Hacker’ skill trees and branches.
The way thats depicted is uh… instead of punching or shooting someone… they just make hand motions like they are typing, a hologram of a keyboard appears, and then your opponent suffers some debuff, with similarly styled ‘code stream’ effects on them.