• Saleh@feddit.org
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    3 days ago

    Australia also runs concentration camps for refugees on remote islands with practically no legal oversight. The Aborigines were considered part of the local “fauna” until the 1960s.

    Australia gets way to less flak for how deeply deeply racist that country is.

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      3 days ago

      I feel obligated to provide some context here.

      Australia certainly is, like most countries, “deeply racist” but exactly what that means and how we compare to other countries is contentious.

      Calling immigration detention facilities “concentration camps” is disingenuous and has connotations that dont apply. At last count in 2021 there were 107 residents, all of whom could leave at any time, and were provided multiple resettlement options outside of Australia.

      There are criticisms to be made but they are not “concentration camps”.

      The fauna thing is an obvious myth that doesn’t withstand a moments critical though. There’s a more comprehensive rebuttal here:

      https://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-20/fact-check-flora-and-fauna-1967-referendum/9550650

      Australia does have deeply embedded tensions around race. They’re not easily solvable problems. Are more salient example might be the recent rejection of the voice referendum, but that would take more than a few moments to read and understand.

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        Calling immigration detention facilities “concentration camps” is disingenuous

        Someone hasn’t heard of Nauru and the Pacific Solution…

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          The sentence you quoted links the Wikipedia article about the pacific solution, and the paragraph explains why calling them concentration camps is disingenuous. Well done.

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      3 days ago

      up until the 1930s Australia had ships that would kidnap indigenous people to enslave them for plantations in a practice called blackbirding

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      3 days ago

      Hey, Kevin said sorry so it’s all good now.

      Then we had the voice referendum and all the racists came out of the wood work for that one

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        2 days ago

        I’m aboriginal and I voted no.

        The way to solve racism isn’t to create more destinctions between us. I already have a voice in parliment. I voted for them and they were elected.

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          I’m aboriginal and I voted yes, almost all aboriginals in the Northern Territory wanted the voice to go through.

          People out in the communities don’t get any meaningful representation in Australia.

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            But that is not an issue unique to one race. Pakastanis who live in the northern territory do not have meaningful representation. Should they get a bespoke group of representatives too? What about Sweedes? Or Brazillians? Or white Australians?

            This is a problem with our democracy, not a race problem. Why make it one?