Im saying, just because you’re sacrificing doesn’t mean you’re getting things for it; you’re not some kind of sorcerer with an obsidian knife so sharp it can stab abstract concepts. Unless you are, idk, maybe then you have like a genie or something?
But if thats not the case, you know; be less sanctimonious and fucking divisive.
We’re not sacrificing anything by organizing and engaging the disengaged. We’d be sacrificing our right to assembly by inciting violence as you suggest.
You need to do more reading on the successful overthrow of dictatorships. They all begin with organization and communication. The unsuccessful attempts all begin with small-scale violent resistance.
See, ive seen a lot of peaceful protests get tear gassed and pepper sprayed and shot at. Like… I think all of the ones ive seen? Like in my life? Admittedly, protests arent my first and foremost thing; I’m an infrastructure girl, but the reason they’ve never been my thing is the silly performative masochism. And i know for a fact im not alone.
Are you outside the US? I’ve been a New Yorker my whole life and have been protesting since the 90s. I’ve seen a handful of arrests and pepper spray deployed once. You’re talking about US news sensationalism or possibly protests in other nations. Even LA and Portland, which are usually the ones to turn rowdy, typically do so once the protests are over in the evening.
That’s not the point of protests. The point is to reach the disengaged and uninformed citizens to join your cause. Protests are a great place to share resources and network, while increasing your numbers, legally in broad daylight. That’s exactly why freedom of assembly is in the Bill of Rights.
There may be tear gas in LA and Portland at times, but it’s still far from the norm. You’re likely unaware of the frequency of peaceful protests and hearing more about the newsworthy events. To give you a frame of reference, this is what NYC’s protest calendar looks like.
Uh huh. I havent generally found protests to grab more people than disaster response or direct gommunity engagement. And those people tend to stay engaged more.
50501 is so vague floofy and sterilized, im not sure it is joining a cause?
Ive lived and joined stuff in places otyer than LA and portland, and sometimes what cops do is worse than tear gas.
Again, im not getting this from media. I do occasionally go outside. Even talked to another person once (never again!)
Edit: and i heard (this was from media) that NY doesnt use tear gas because its a dense mixed use city.
Im not saying it’s bad. Good that it’s hapoening, but it will not win on its own. nothing wins on its own, and im not sure 50501 is the best of what’s currently going.
Im saying, just because you’re sacrificing doesn’t mean you’re getting things for it; you’re not some kind of sorcerer with an obsidian knife so sharp it can stab abstract concepts. Unless you are, idk, maybe then you have like a genie or something?
But if thats not the case, you know; be less sanctimonious and fucking divisive.
We’re not sacrificing anything by organizing and engaging the disengaged. We’d be sacrificing our right to assembly by inciting violence as you suggest.
You need to do more reading on the successful overthrow of dictatorships. They all begin with organization and communication. The unsuccessful attempts all begin with small-scale violent resistance.
See, ive seen a lot of peaceful protests get tear gassed and pepper sprayed and shot at. Like… I think all of the ones ive seen? Like in my life? Admittedly, protests arent my first and foremost thing; I’m an infrastructure girl, but the reason they’ve never been my thing is the silly performative masochism. And i know for a fact im not alone.
Oh?
Are you outside the US? I’ve been a New Yorker my whole life and have been protesting since the 90s. I’ve seen a handful of arrests and pepper spray deployed once. You’re talking about US news sensationalism or possibly protests in other nations. Even LA and Portland, which are usually the ones to turn rowdy, typically do so once the protests are over in the evening.
Other side of the country. Tear gas is pretty normal here?
But again, protests arent my main thing. Don’t see the pointbof most of them; asking nicely an entity that doesn’t care what you want.
I wouldn’t be shocked if my experience skewed spicy, but i havent been told that it does.
That’s not the point of protests. The point is to reach the disengaged and uninformed citizens to join your cause. Protests are a great place to share resources and network, while increasing your numbers, legally in broad daylight. That’s exactly why freedom of assembly is in the Bill of Rights.
There may be tear gas in LA and Portland at times, but it’s still far from the norm. You’re likely unaware of the frequency of peaceful protests and hearing more about the newsworthy events. To give you a frame of reference, this is what NYC’s protest calendar looks like.
Uh huh. I havent generally found protests to grab more people than disaster response or direct gommunity engagement. And those people tend to stay engaged more.
50501 is so vague floofy and sterilized, im not sure it is joining a cause?
Ive lived and joined stuff in places otyer than LA and portland, and sometimes what cops do is worse than tear gas.
Again, im not getting this from media. I do occasionally go outside. Even talked to another person once (never again!)
Edit: and i heard (this was from media) that NY doesnt use tear gas because its a dense mixed use city.
Im not saying it’s bad. Good that it’s hapoening, but it will not win on its own. nothing wins on its own, and im not sure 50501 is the best of what’s currently going.
What other channels are mobilizing ~10M people? I’ll get behind them if they’re effective.