• PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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    2 days ago

    Violent resistance is a great way to get arrested or killed, scare people away from resistance for fear of their safety

    Same with nonviolent resistance! Worse for nonviolent resistance! Did you see what the pigs did to those protesters in LA? All over the country during the No Kings protests?!?

    and embolden fascism by turning a constitutionally protected peaceful resistance into a domestic threat.

    Fascists don’t need to be emboldened. They are already fully monsters. No matter how peacefully you protest, the fascists will treat you as if you revolted.

    How many people with guns do you estimate it takes to overthrow the largest military in the world by force?

    Not as many as you think! Remember Vietnam?

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      I mean embolden through legislation. Becoming a domestic threat justifies implementation of curfews, and potential suspension of assembly rights for the needs of public safety.

      Vietnam was successful because we were forced to attack on unfamiliar territory. You’re suggesting bringing violence to them, right? We’re not talking about pulling a “Home Alone” on ICE.

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        Becoming a domestic threat justifies implementation of curfews, and potential suspension of assembly rights for the needs of public safety.

        No it absolutely does not justify that stuff. Being a threat to the powerful is not the same as being a threat to the average person.

        Vietnam was successful because we were forced to attack on unfamiliar territory. You’re suggesting bringing violence to them, right?

        I’m suggesting that the working class defends itself against the capitalist using a diversity of tactics, including violence if necessary and possibly a revolt, and that violence is necessary. On average, these fascist fucks don’t know our homes, our neighborhoods, our cities, or our wilderness as well as we do. I think there is a chance of winning if we organize as groups willing to fight.

        We’re not talking about pulling a “Home Alone” on ICE.

        I’m not against that 😈🏴

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          Also note that Trump’s probably relying on ICE because he reasons that the military might not stand behind him. That means he’s filling up an organization with loyalists, but they have neither strategic planning ability nor any actually useful skills, or they wouldn’t sell themselves out to a worthless piece of shit so easily.

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          2 days ago

          Not in your mind, maybe, but legally it’s the same thing. Violence will be used as justification to enact legislation that will restrict our resistance. Just look at how the early morning vandals and looters in LA got the city to enact a curfew, and they weren’t even part of the protest.

          • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S [he/him]@lemmy.sdf.orgOP
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            No, legally too, they will use your protest as justification if a sufficiently rowdy one cannot be exhibited. And then when your protest ceases to exist, they’ll fabricate an incident to justify escalation.

            The people in charge are already fully monsters who will wield the law as needed to get their dirty work done, regardless of how peacefully you protest, regardless of how perfect a victim you make yourself, regardless of what the law says.