Repeating the same goddamn mistakes again. This is what Americans supporting Trump want, all “undesirables” to be murdered. This is what tens of millions of us are.
“eat the rich” and “grab the guillotine” can be seen as having the same vibe (“all “undesirables” to be murdered”). Maybe violence shouldn’t be the answer for either side, or maybe it is the answer for one side. I’m not going to advocate for it here, but I will say, we are a larger crowd… maybe don’t fuck with us?
There is a world of difference between evil people doing violence to innocent people who just want to live their lives, and doing violence to those evil people in order to protect the innocent
Yes. But people are people. Just like not all us poors are innocent, not all them richs are evil. “eat the rich”, for example, sets a presence of blanketed violence that we will never be able to escape. Preemptively killing someone because they might do evil isn’t really any difference in end result to where we are now. The “undesirables”, as they’ve been stated earlier, are not all innocent, and the USA government is kicking all of them out, because some of them might be evil (same as killing all the rich, because some of them are evil). I’m all for protecting the innocent, but the cost for doing so cannot be to kill other innocents. I don’t have answers, only criticisms, which is one reason I never got into politics. And, in case it wasn’t clear, these concentration camps they’re proposing are abysmal, evil, and likely illegal (like that ever stopped them before).
You can’t be a good person and be a billionaire. The simple fact that you have that much money means you’re taking more than your share. No one is creating a billion dollars worth of work.
Fair point. Maybe that’s the disconnect. To me, ‘rich’ covers a whole slew of people that aren’t even close to billionaires. Someone who is living very comfortably and has, say, £200k in the bank, to me, would be considered rich.
If you need an atomic clock to know how many millions of dollars you have, then you’re rich. The rest of us aren’t even worth fixing a rounding error for them.
I don’t think you understand that quote. “Eat the rich” is part of the full quote, “when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich”. It’s not about killing rich people, it’s about class struggle and avoiding the situation where the wealthy have accumulated so much that the people are starving. In other words, it’s a warning to the rich not to take so much that they are the only food left.
No I understand the origins. But I also have witnessed it used on here as a call to arms. I’m not referring to the origins, with which I fully agree but, rather, to what it has become as of late; it’s current colloquial use.
You really think “eat the rich” is too strong of a response to the rich literally building death camps and making snide jokes about feeding all of the brown people to the alligators? People saying “eat the rich” are crossing too big of a line in this situation?
so in the face of stripping human rights from vulnerable people, you willfully side with the fascists doing said human rights violations. I am from Germany and we went through our history thouroughly in school and I can guarantee you one thing: Any person that advocated for the Nazi cause, were part of the Nazis (even mere infantery cannonfodder), or silenced critiquers were tried in the Nürnberg (Nuremberg) trials as fully guilty. So when the MAGA craze settles, and people look at this situation with a 20 20 vision, I hope you are aware at what you are promoting here. The Hague is there for a reason and any sane person in the western world is just waiting for the trials to begin.
The people not just advocating for, but actively trying to be personally in charge of putting huge portions of the population into death camps are not worthy of tolerance. We cannot allow them to exist unchallenged. Life has been too easy for them, and we have been too abiding of their views and hateful rhetoric, which has empowered and emboldened them into this state of being. They will cry for your tolerance, but not give second thought to callously harming millions of people just for clout. You gotta draw a line somewhere.
That’s how the french revolution went. Not a great outcome in the short term for most people involved. Violence, no matter how justified, has a tentency to spin out of control.
Repeating the same goddamn mistakes again. This is what Americans supporting Trump want, all “undesirables” to be murdered. This is what tens of millions of us are.
“eat the rich” and “grab the guillotine” can be seen as having the same vibe (“all “undesirables” to be murdered”). Maybe violence shouldn’t be the answer for either side, or maybe it is the answer for one side. I’m not going to advocate for it here, but I will say, we are a larger crowd… maybe don’t fuck with us?
There is a world of difference between evil people doing violence to innocent people who just want to live their lives, and doing violence to those evil people in order to protect the innocent
Yes. But people are people. Just like not all us poors are innocent, not all them richs are evil. “eat the rich”, for example, sets a presence of blanketed violence that we will never be able to escape. Preemptively killing someone because they might do evil isn’t really any difference in end result to where we are now. The “undesirables”, as they’ve been stated earlier, are not all innocent, and the USA government is kicking all of them out, because some of them might be evil (same as killing all the rich, because some of them are evil). I’m all for protecting the innocent, but the cost for doing so cannot be to kill other innocents. I don’t have answers, only criticisms, which is one reason I never got into politics. And, in case it wasn’t clear, these concentration camps they’re proposing are abysmal, evil, and likely illegal (like that ever stopped them before).
You can’t be a good person and be a billionaire. The simple fact that you have that much money means you’re taking more than your share. No one is creating a billion dollars worth of work.
Fair point. Maybe that’s the disconnect. To me, ‘rich’ covers a whole slew of people that aren’t even close to billionaires. Someone who is living very comfortably and has, say, £200k in the bank, to me, would be considered rich.
200k in the bank? That pauper is just one bad medical event from being homeless.
How do you define ‘rich’, then? Not ‘ultrarich’, to which I’m thinking that phrase refers in today’s world.
If you need an atomic clock to know how many millions of dollars you have, then you’re rich. The rest of us aren’t even worth fixing a rounding error for them.
I don’t think you understand that quote. “Eat the rich” is part of the full quote, “when the people shall have nothing more to eat, they will eat the rich”. It’s not about killing rich people, it’s about class struggle and avoiding the situation where the wealthy have accumulated so much that the people are starving. In other words, it’s a warning to the rich not to take so much that they are the only food left.
It is 100% about killing rich people. Also why guillotines are talked about in the context. I don’t know why you are trying to spin it any other way.
Yes. Correct. Because extreme wealth ALWAYS leads to violence against the less wealthy.
No I understand the origins. But I also have witnessed it used on here as a call to arms. I’m not referring to the origins, with which I fully agree but, rather, to what it has become as of late; it’s current colloquial use.
You really think “eat the rich” is too strong of a response to the rich literally building death camps and making snide jokes about feeding all of the brown people to the alligators? People saying “eat the rich” are crossing too big of a line in this situation?
If you’re good with murder, stop talking about it, then, and start acting. But keep in mind, there are worse fates than death.
Jesus fucking christ, get a grip, you spineless bitch.
so in the face of stripping human rights from vulnerable people, you willfully side with the fascists doing said human rights violations. I am from Germany and we went through our history thouroughly in school and I can guarantee you one thing: Any person that advocated for the Nazi cause, were part of the Nazis (even mere infantery cannonfodder), or silenced critiquers were tried in the Nürnberg (Nuremberg) trials as fully guilty. So when the MAGA craze settles, and people look at this situation with a 20 20 vision, I hope you are aware at what you are promoting here. The Hague is there for a reason and any sane person in the western world is just waiting for the trials to begin.
I have no clue how you went from “I believe murder is wrong” to “praise the nazis”, but ok.
Two things you should look into…
Paradox of Tolerance.
Social contract.
The people not just advocating for, but actively trying to be personally in charge of putting huge portions of the population into death camps are not worthy of tolerance. We cannot allow them to exist unchallenged. Life has been too easy for them, and we have been too abiding of their views and hateful rhetoric, which has empowered and emboldened them into this state of being. They will cry for your tolerance, but not give second thought to callously harming millions of people just for clout. You gotta draw a line somewhere.
That’s how the french revolution went. Not a great outcome in the short term for most people involved. Violence, no matter how justified, has a tentency to spin out of control.
Jesus fucking christ you’re a moron, critical support for whoever feeds you to an alligator