• 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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    22 hours ago

    No I understand the origins. But I also have witnessed it used on here as a call to arms. I’m not referring to the origins, with which I fully agree but, rather, to what it has become as of late; it’s current colloquial use.

    • NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world
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      21 hours ago

      You really think “eat the rich” is too strong of a response to the rich literally building death camps and making snide jokes about feeding all of the brown people to the alligators? People saying “eat the rich” are crossing too big of a line in this situation?

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      17 hours ago

      so in the face of stripping human rights from vulnerable people, you willfully side with the fascists doing said human rights violations. I am from Germany and we went through our history thouroughly in school and I can guarantee you one thing: Any person that advocated for the Nazi cause, were part of the Nazis (even mere infantery cannonfodder), or silenced critiquers were tried in the Nürnberg (Nuremberg) trials as fully guilty. So when the MAGA craze settles, and people look at this situation with a 20 20 vision, I hope you are aware at what you are promoting here. The Hague is there for a reason and any sane person in the western world is just waiting for the trials to begin.

        • Bytemeister@lemmy.world
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          10 hours ago

          Two things you should look into…

          Paradox of Tolerance.

          Social contract.

          The people not just advocating for, but actively trying to be personally in charge of putting huge portions of the population into death camps are not worthy of tolerance. We cannot allow them to exist unchallenged. Life has been too easy for them, and we have been too abiding of their views and hateful rhetoric, which has empowered and emboldened them into this state of being. They will cry for your tolerance, but not give second thought to callously harming millions of people just for clout. You gotta draw a line somewhere.

          • 𝕸𝖔𝖘𝖘@infosec.pub
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            2 hours ago

            Reread my original comment (and all others that followed, if you want). I never, not once, stated that what they’re doing is fine, nor did I claim we shouldn’t fight back (in fact, I suggested we should fight back and implied we would be right to do so). But people like to see what they want, in order to find a conflict that wasn’t there to begin with. I am fully aware of the two concepts you mentioned, though I have a hard time accepting the latter sometimes (but I don’t disagree with it). To immediately jump to murder is not the right call (almost never is), but violence can be the right call (but not always).

            Ignoring the next two statements, ignores the social contract.

            • Someone who is willing to immediately jump to murder, is as bad as the nazis we all hate. This someone is acting like the nazis.
            • On the flip side, someone who is unwilling to kill in defense of self or others after exhausting all reasonable avenues, is as bad as the nazis we all hate. This someone is enabling the nazis.

            We like to call anyone who disagrees with our points of view, no matter how logical, as a nazi or other, more colorful insults, but never once do we stop to consider a path better than our own.

            What this idiot is doing is not fine and must be stopped, but this comment chain calling a total stranger (who, by the way, agrees with your point of view on the original matter of this post) a nazi, is not the way we make a change. If you live in Florida, maybe find your way to your governor and rally in the streets. If you live in the USA, maybe you find your way to your state officials and demand the change. Maybe you can find your way to the site of this atrocious construction, and prevent further development on it or prevent it or ever being used or, I don’t know, anything besides online-threatening the lives of people whom you’ve never met based on the shit they do… Stop bitching and do something about it.