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    1 day ago

    Because the UCMJ has done such a great job of preventing war crimes and punishing war criminals…

    Just because something is illegal doesn’t make it unjust and vice versa.

    After all according to the German military the holocaust was legal. If soldiers then murdered their officers they would have been seen by the world as heros.

    Legality should not be the basis of your morality

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      19 hours ago

      Dudes are saying that soldiers should shoot their officers if they give a “bad” order … that’s not how things work. Anyone that thinks it is has watched way too many movies.

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        19 hours ago

        Nobody said that, I certainly didn’t.

        What I said was if your CO orders you to kill civilians it is absolutely moral to ignore that order and if necessary go beyond the law to prevent it even if that includes killing your CO.

        There is a huge difference between a “bad” order and being complicit in war crimes and killing unarmed civilians in your own country.

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          6 hours ago

          Incorrect. At least read the conversation you are trying to enter. There are several references stating this should be done. One post even describes where the term “fragging” comes from. The post I responded to stated a soldier could either live with the guilt of what he does or turn on the officer that gave the order.

          You are also wrong that you can disobey an order to shoot civilians. It is not always morally acceptable. That will get someone a court martial. A soldier on guard duty on a military base sees several guys jumping a fence and entering an ammo depot. “Halt! Are you guys military? Because I’m not allowed to shoot civilians breaking onto a secured facility” … said no soldier ever in the history of soldiering.

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            5 hours ago

            Lmao, I am the person that you’ve been responding to.

            So I guess incorrect to you too lol

            Nice job making up a new scenario we’re not talking about. I’ll let you figure out how breaking into a military base differs from protesting.

            Other note morality and legality are not the same

            • Wilco@lemm.ee
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              1 hour ago

              You said shooting civilians was illegal … I disagreed … I am right. There are millions of scenarios where civilians get killed, and only a few dozen where it is illegal.

              You are not the only one posting, if you didn’t bring up the officer bragging statement then someone else did. I didn’t.

              You are just one of those people that are argumentative online just to be argumentative. It’s easy to remedy by blocking. Bye “arrow”.

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                11 minutes ago

                Loses argument

                Desperate to regain the upper hand

                Pretends to win

                Say “bye” for failed attempt at power move

                smiles and sucks cheeto dust from fingers That’ll show him