I didn’t even know that was a thing. In the past I’ve been told I should just embrace boobs and that there is no way. Time to do some research on that see if maybe it’s something I could do.
This is anecdotal and varies highly by person, but I’ll drop my experience here since raloxifene reports are still few and far between (and I was recently searching far and wide for them). Ralox was relatively effective for me but not perfect, but I do owe the initiation of my hrt journey to it. Overall I would say that it isn’t a long term solution, but it can be a useful tool in determining what is right for you.
As a non-binary transfem person, I initially went on Ralox along with E (and Spiro) about 1.5 years ago. R blocked (or at least slowed) the majority of my boob growth for basically the whole year I was on it, paired with E doses of under about 6mg taken orally (or only 2mg E taken sublingually due to higher metabolized peaks). E doses higher than that tended to overpower Ralox and I would notice chest sensitivity within a few days, guiding me to lower my E. (Fwiw I did this ‘experimentation’ with my doctor’s approval and under their care).
Within those ranges, my chest had minor growth but it was largely due to general fat redistribution (for note I am a fairly avg body type/weight), I would say that I stayed within the Tanner stage 1 or beginnings of stage 2. This would be the sweet spot (for me) to avoid any real breast growth. My ass however, got thicc pretty fast - which was honestly amazing to watch grow lol.
Eventually I really started to love being on E, and my brain and body wanted more of it lol. I began on 6mg E taken sublingually, and rather quickly saw some boob growth (bumping me into tanner 3), but they… sorta grew on me? Before long I dropped ralox entirely and am now leaning fully into E 😅.
All in all I am happy that I started off with Raloxifene + E, primarily because it gave me the comfort I needed to start E at all. Once on E for a while, it really rewired my brain and made me realize my hold-up on having breasts was largely due to social fears of transition. It’s still scary and hard sometimes, but I’m so much more self-confident just through the biochemical benefits that the E therapy has provided. I still don’t want large breasts by any means, but it’s no longer a big concern of mine in the big picture of my transition.
Sorry again for hijacking this thread, I just felt compelled to share in hopes that it may assist in someone’s journey!
Don’t worry, I appreciate people sharing their experience, especially since Ralox is new and doesn’t have a lot of studies yet, so learning about people’s experience with it is very helpful.
By opposite, I’m assuming you mean breast growth with no other feminizing changes? That I am not sure about how to achieve. Off the top of my head, I’m thinking that one could maybe go on a T blocker and/or estradiol for a while, and then stop. The breasts should still persist despite stopping, although they may shrink somewhat. Aside from that there is also breast augmentation surgery.
By opposite I meant feminization but more boobs, but I realize that’s not the “exact” opposite. I’ve been on HRT for nearly two years now, but boobage is small :(
Unfortunately there’s no magic pill that can cause bigger boob growth. Everyone has a certain genetic potential for boob growth, and that gets activated to the fullest extent possible after a prolonged period of estrogen and perhaps progesterone. If there was some pill that could drastically increase the breast size of people that already have estrogen-dominated biologies, then the breast implant industry would not exist. If you could just take a pill to make your boobs as big as you want, who would want to go through the pain, expense, risk, and artificiality of implants? Implants would be used for breast reconstruction after breast-cancer treating mastectomies, but that’s about it.
Yeah I know. Realistically there’s nothing that can be done. I’d get a BA but I have other surgeries that have higher priority. Or hopefully in another few years, they’ll grow more.
Oh sorry I assumed wrong. In that case progesterone could help, as someone else has already mentioned. I’m on prog and I think it’s helped somewhat. It makes me eepy though so I primarily use it as a sleeping pill now lol
I’ve been on progesterone for almost a year, I should have mentioned. It didn’t help at all with the size but maybe a bit the shape. Anyways I switched to cycling it since it’s a PITA to take (literally) and it doesn’t benefit me much.
FWIW it’s probably genetic because nobody in my family has big knockers and mine are probably a B cup at best. I just wish for bigger ones 😮💨
Same here, nearly 1 year on prog. I think it helped more with shape and didn’t do much with size as well. There is oral progesterone available though, if you don’t want to take the suppository ones.
And as cool as gargantuan genuines are, smaller breasts are still beautiful too, and they don’t cause back pain either, so that’s nice at least.
Yeah I’m aware… From my understanding, taking it via suppository is better for absorption. And it’s fine, it’s just if I’m not getting much of a benefit from it (which I feel I would have seen after 9 months of taking it), I don’t see a reason to continue taking it every day. So I take it for 10 days at the start of every month. Doing it that way still helps with my libido and stuff but I don’t have to take it every day.
But I agree, there are pros and cons to both. I just want them to be a liiiiittle bigger, yknow? :) Maybe that’ll happen in time though, 2 years is still early.
If you don’t want boobs, you could take raloxifene alongside estradiol to get feminization without much or any breast growth.
I didn’t even know that was a thing. In the past I’ve been told I should just embrace boobs and that there is no way. Time to do some research on that see if maybe it’s something I could do.
Sorry for the book…
This is anecdotal and varies highly by person, but I’ll drop my experience here since raloxifene reports are still few and far between (and I was recently searching far and wide for them). Ralox was relatively effective for me but not perfect, but I do owe the initiation of my hrt journey to it. Overall I would say that it isn’t a long term solution, but it can be a useful tool in determining what is right for you.
As a non-binary transfem person, I initially went on Ralox along with E (and Spiro) about 1.5 years ago. R blocked (or at least slowed) the majority of my boob growth for basically the whole year I was on it, paired with E doses of under about 6mg taken orally (or only 2mg E taken sublingually due to higher metabolized peaks). E doses higher than that tended to overpower Ralox and I would notice chest sensitivity within a few days, guiding me to lower my E. (Fwiw I did this ‘experimentation’ with my doctor’s approval and under their care).
Within those ranges, my chest had minor growth but it was largely due to general fat redistribution (for note I am a fairly avg body type/weight), I would say that I stayed within the Tanner stage 1 or beginnings of stage 2. This would be the sweet spot (for me) to avoid any real breast growth. My ass however, got thicc pretty fast - which was honestly amazing to watch grow lol.
Eventually I really started to love being on E, and my brain and body wanted more of it lol. I began on 6mg E taken sublingually, and rather quickly saw some boob growth (bumping me into tanner 3), but they… sorta grew on me? Before long I dropped ralox entirely and am now leaning fully into E 😅.
All in all I am happy that I started off with Raloxifene + E, primarily because it gave me the comfort I needed to start E at all. Once on E for a while, it really rewired my brain and made me realize my hold-up on having breasts was largely due to social fears of transition. It’s still scary and hard sometimes, but I’m so much more self-confident just through the biochemical benefits that the E therapy has provided. I still don’t want large breasts by any means, but it’s no longer a big concern of mine in the big picture of my transition.
Sorry again for hijacking this thread, I just felt compelled to share in hopes that it may assist in someone’s journey!
Don’t worry, I appreciate people sharing their experience, especially since Ralox is new and doesn’t have a lot of studies yet, so learning about people’s experience with it is very helpful.
Is there anything that does the opposite?
By opposite, I’m assuming you mean breast growth with no other feminizing changes? That I am not sure about how to achieve. Off the top of my head, I’m thinking that one could maybe go on a T blocker and/or estradiol for a while, and then stop. The breasts should still persist despite stopping, although they may shrink somewhat. Aside from that there is also breast augmentation surgery.
By opposite I meant feminization but more boobs, but I realize that’s not the “exact” opposite. I’ve been on HRT for nearly two years now, but boobage is small :(
Unfortunately there’s no magic pill that can cause bigger boob growth. Everyone has a certain genetic potential for boob growth, and that gets activated to the fullest extent possible after a prolonged period of estrogen and perhaps progesterone. If there was some pill that could drastically increase the breast size of people that already have estrogen-dominated biologies, then the breast implant industry would not exist. If you could just take a pill to make your boobs as big as you want, who would want to go through the pain, expense, risk, and artificiality of implants? Implants would be used for breast reconstruction after breast-cancer treating mastectomies, but that’s about it.
Yeah I know. Realistically there’s nothing that can be done. I’d get a BA but I have other surgeries that have higher priority. Or hopefully in another few years, they’ll grow more.
Ask your endo about adding progesterone.
I’ve been on progesterone for almost a year :)
Oh sorry I assumed wrong. In that case progesterone could help, as someone else has already mentioned. I’m on prog and I think it’s helped somewhat. It makes me eepy though so I primarily use it as a sleeping pill now lol
I’ve been on progesterone for almost a year, I should have mentioned. It didn’t help at all with the size but maybe a bit the shape. Anyways I switched to cycling it since it’s a PITA to take (literally) and it doesn’t benefit me much.
FWIW it’s probably genetic because nobody in my family has big knockers and mine are probably a B cup at best. I just wish for bigger ones 😮💨
Same here, nearly 1 year on prog. I think it helped more with shape and didn’t do much with size as well. There is oral progesterone available though, if you don’t want to take the suppository ones.
And as cool as gargantuan genuines are, smaller breasts are still beautiful too, and they don’t cause back pain either, so that’s nice at least.
Yeah I’m aware… From my understanding, taking it via suppository is better for absorption. And it’s fine, it’s just if I’m not getting much of a benefit from it (which I feel I would have seen after 9 months of taking it), I don’t see a reason to continue taking it every day. So I take it for 10 days at the start of every month. Doing it that way still helps with my libido and stuff but I don’t have to take it every day.
But I agree, there are pros and cons to both. I just want them to be a liiiiittle bigger, yknow? :) Maybe that’ll happen in time though, 2 years is still early.