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And the huge shift right by male GenZ people. Reading posts by them specifically today: they felt marginalized by democrats and ignored. They felt like Maga cared about them, and they could belong in the Republican party. And some of them simply wanted revenge and to feel powerful.

Now this isn’t everyone, but I gotta say:

WTF are you doing thinking about feelings? And fitting in? Look at the damn effects your choice is going to make based on “feelings”. That group is going to lose consumer protection, worker protection and safety, medical coverage, relief on college tuition, housing subsidies, debt relief, small business loans. What they gain is higher prices, worse infrastructure, and possibly the nastiest thing of al:l the direct path of their income going to the wealthiest people and perpetuating generational wealth for the very few.

Because they wanted to “feel” like they were seen and heard as men. You got played!

Putting a poison

It’s not a poison, this type of bullshit fear-mongering just highlights how hollow your arguments are. You’re arguing that the delivery method of fluoride is wrong, and then you call it a poison. Stop taking cues from anti-vaxxers.

If you do not think fluoride is a poison you are out of your mind. You didnt seem to understand how chlorine worked, so I guess its par for the course. There are 188 superfund sites in the US to clean up… FLUORIDE. There are even communities that have to remove it from their drinking water. There are strict limits on the ppm in water, so you think everyone is getting the same dose by adding it?

I gave two examples, you want me to write a damn paper? There are PLENTY MORE. The study in the UK came to the same conclusion. But no matter what I say, you are going argue. True Brita basics do not remove flouride.

And yes I am suggesting, the WHOLE FUCKING TIME, that the US can do better. That this stop gap is stupid, because of the reasons I gave. Why do you want to argue this shit?

The examples of negatives are the deaths that occurred in Alaska, and the injuries in Utah due to human error. Those are rare though. Chronic ingestion of fluoride in large amounts interferes with bone formation. But then there is the study that prompted this discussion, which is interesting, but it needs more review. I looked through the 300 pages and the summary, and I am not convinced.

We are not far apart on this: I am not against fluoride. I am just not hugely in favor of adding it to the water supply if we don’t have to. Ingestion is not the same as oral application. A person drinking black tea is already getting decent amount of fluoride. Should their water also be fluoridated? Looking at other countries that do not need to do this is something to strive for.

So explain to me how Denmark has the best DMFT index score (decayed, missing, or filled teeth), yet they do not add fluoride to their water.

Or Kuopio Finland, that was the only city in Finland that fluoridated then stopped.

This study indicates that, among children and adolescents whose permanent teeth erupted in the mid-1970s or thereafter, even a longitudinal approach did not reveal a lower caries occurrence in the fluoridated than in the low-fluoride reference community. The main reason for the modest effect of water fluoridation in Finnish circumstances is probably the widespread use of other measures for caries prevention. The children have been exposed to such intense efforts to increase tooth resistance that the effect of water fluoridation does not show up any more.

Again, better health care, better outcomes. Putting a poison that becomes a random dose depending on age, consumption, and concentration into water is stupid. You wont change my mind. It may be a necessary evil to get to better care, but we should be able to stop doing that.

And yes, I don’t know any kids who actually are willing to drink tap water anymore. Its all bottled, brita, or filtered these days.

Bozo? So are we having a discussion or what? Do you just want to argue about how you feel and have a slapfight or are you willing to actually discuss this? Uneducated indeed.

Yes, Kids these days. How much water do kids drink? How much TAP water do kids drink?

The latest studies show a rise in flourosis

Along with a decline in having teeth rot and fall out, damn what a tough choice.

Except NO. That is what I am telling you. The studies that have been done have discovered that the effectiveness we saw in the 1950’s is not the same as today. With the rise of Fluoride in toothpaste the differences are negligible.

Do you know the difference between Chlorine and Flouride? Chlorine is an evaporating compound. Don’t want chlorine in your water, let it sit for a day. Boil it.

Fluoride does not evaporate. It concentrates.

You literally are disagreeing with decades of evidence

Nope. I am willing to look at and understand current studies and evidence. Are you?

I hate that this stance appears to agree with RFK Jr. He is an idiot. I said it was a municipality issue, not a federal issue. I said I would support flouride in toothpaste and a program to assist with that. I also can agree that a municipality may find it necessary to fluoridate their water if dental care and oral hygiene is unavailable due to various factors like poverty, remoteness, cost effectiveness etc. But in the end it would ALWAYS be better to prescribe the treatment in measured amounts, instead of adding it to the water. That is why I think it is stupid and we need to move beyond it.

Did you read the second part of my comment? Just how much water do kids drink these days? How much more effective is using fluoride AND developing good brushing habits?

The latest studies show a rise in flourosis, and a decline in effectiveness since the widespread use of fluoride toothpaste.

It seems crazy to me to add a chemical to water that had no dose control and concentrates upon boiling if there are better options.

Isn’t this a state and municipality decision?

Personally I am in favor of removing floyride from water. I think it’s stupid.

But I am fine with replacing that with free fluoride toothpaste for children.

Either way that is not a federal decision to make.

Yep, you gotta do what you gotta do. I could never blame anyone for that.

Then when you are your own boss you can do it your way!

It sure is a popular app regionally. Lots of people in different countries I know use it interchangeably at this point: when they say text, they mean whatsap. I get it.

But I will not support Meta, there is a line. I don’t need family or friends that cannot use open source alternative. Worse case, I just drop back to sms.

But work requires it? Or you happen to have work that needs to support many customers? I suppose I could see that, but work would then be a completely separate phone only for that purpose.

Life fair. It’s only trying to help you not have to use whatsapp.

And yet I am watching a re-resurgence of collecting crap began anew. Take vinyl for example: heavy, bulky, environmentally awful and on par with if not worse sounding than alternatives. But people want something tangible. Which I am also beginning to see with old collectables. Also art: there is a movement to get physical art since digital is not tangible and possibly not even made by a human.

China, silver, and plastic ware: I have seen an uptick in those as well which is bizarre. Is it just a matter of time till the cycle comes around again?

Every single ununtu release since Warty has been trouble. Ubuntu breaks. Does wetid things. Makes weird choices. Upgrades often fail.

I am surprised it took you this long to run into issues.

I agree, but I am not sure what that will look like. Restructuring? Bail out?

They currently don’t make anything anyone even wants. How long till they can retool and get competitive?

In any case, it would seem like whatever is promised to employees now may not be what they get in the future.

Might as well promise them anything. Boeing is likely to fold or require layoffs soon anyways.

Your merits matter most to me. But we all need to get the hell away from that platform.

That sucks. And the only way to fix it is to get people not to play.

I am on hiring committees for a large firm for it positions. When people put their linked in on their resumes, I see it as a negative. If they can’t value their personal data, I don’t see how they can value my companies.

Linked in shouldn’t even be an option. It was shit before microsoft bought them (email man in the middle, remember that?) and somehow microsoft made it worse.

I would never touch that platform. Friends don’t let friends use it.

I have been using openmediavault for years and years. Basically debian with some configuration already done for a web gui, quick access to shares and user controls, and a simple but ready docker setup for your containers. Extremely light weight.

I have unraid on a test server, but I just can’t see the point of using it over omv. Raid is not important to me, you have to make backup either way. Containers are containers, and a vm is not something I need

I now see the angle you were taking in your comment.

I read it as no one can stop you from growing it,

And I believe you are saying corpos will mass commercialize it just.like tobacco.

Thanks!

I am confused, tobacco is legal to grow for your own use.

No, it would be more like a poor craftsman who doesn’t recognize it when a tool is crappy. Ubuntu is always on the way to breaking, or is broken at the get go. I remember when they thought 4 was stable. It was not nearly compared to most anything else at the time.

Even recently I had to install Ubuntu for a project because that is what the vendor supported. Several things were broken post install. Default Ubuntu stuff that should have just worked. Par for the course. If you get past that, of course the mishmash of Snap management for feature incomplete software can be very trying for a new user, when other distros make it easy.