You’ve retained your honor this day.

Turnip loves when other people come up with plans, because he can’t can just ignore it and do what he wants anyway

That’s like the one silver lining I’m seeing out of this whole situation, is that Trump can’t stick to a plan if his literal life and freedom depend on it. We saw that in action in the E. Jean Carroll defamation suit. It doesn’t matter how well the plans are laid by his mice and men, he’s not going to read them. And if we’re lucky that by itself will be enough to prevent a total enactment of P2025.

Technically speaking, nachos and salad are two different food groups. But by this same definition a steak is a salad and a salad is actually nachos, provided it has croutons.

Chozo

Not Brinstar theme

I’m going to need to repossess that username

The Tristram theme still unlocks some long-buried neuron activation for me and I haven’t played Diablo 1 in probably 20 years. But that and Griswold’s “What can I do fer ya?” are baked into my memory permanently.

You’ve been very reasonable about this in the face of my ranting and I appreciate it. I specifically don’t want to become “blue MAGA” and level heads like yours are what’s going to prevent a lot of us from going there. I’m still mad, and I still think this all needs attention and isn’t getting it, though. I don’t know what to do about that other than crow about it on the internet or show up to the white house. I don’t think either of those are good ideas.

That’s fair, and I’m sorry to have been an asshole about it. I deserve that. However, conspiracy thinking or no, I think it’s extremely valid to be suspicious of these results. There are quite a lot of factors at play here that can cast what I consider to be reasonable doubt over this whole situation.

Sure, don’t jump right to conspiracy theories off the bat, fair enough. But also don’t be blind to what is in front of us. Things don’t add up here in a way that makes sense to me. In particular, I question the fact that nearly 1 in 2 Latino voters voted to deport themselves and their families, and I find it difficult to believe that 15+ million other voters who showed up to vote for Joe Biden, didn’t show up to vote for Harris. It was all the same threat, magnified, with a much more palatable upside than the first time and a much more clear view of the alternative. These people should have been, and by all accounts were, even more motivated than in 2020. This is the most politicized election we’ve had in over a century, nobody didn’t hear about this.

The whole thing just stinks. It stinks all to hell and I think I’m justified in believing the conservatives pulled off a successful steal this time just like they’ve been promising to, not least of which is because by the time I woke up after election night everyone had already decided none of the Dems showed up and Trump had won, when according to gov websites the final vote tally and certification isn’t even until mid December. I’ve never seen election results get called so early that I can remember. I saw three different news stories about conservatives setting ballot boxes on fire. Our gerrymandering maps are so bad they can be confused for TV static from a distance. Millions of people had their voting registration purged by state level conservatives weeks or days before the election.

I think a little bit of suspicion surrounding the results is beyond justified.

Ah yes, it’s exactly the same with no differences, surely Trump isn’t known to be a cheat and a liar from every single other interaction he’s ever had with a human being. Surely he hasn’t stated publicly his intentions to cheat the election. No, he’s a perfect human being and we’re all just shouting about voter fraud because we’re stupid.

If it’s almost certainly coming anyway then you may as well throw them a bone first

And if it isn’t coming anyway, then you’ve done a little bit to screw up the plans of impending worldwide fascist domination

I’d call that a win-win

Yeah I don’t believe that for a fucking second to be honest with you, and I’m finding it difficult to not go insane with conspiracy theories about MAGA fucking with the vote counts, and becoming the same person I made fun of surrounding Jan 6 - except he has a proven record of being a cheat and all but outright stated his intent to cheat the election. I’m kind of dumbfounded that 3 hours after voting night closes the major news outlets are all reporting a Trump win which they couldn’t possibly know yet, everyone takes this as fact and refuses to investigate any further. Official vote tally and certification isn’t even until mid December by the usual schedule according to .gov sources.

Is it not just a little bit ridiculous to anyone else that in one of the most relentlessly politicized elections of the past century 15+ million people who voted last time suddenly didn’t? 15 million people predominantly of the denominations that Trump and his goons particularly hate and wanted to silence? For that matter does anyone else find it strange that 45% of Latinos voted to deport themselves? I mean, some percentage I could expect, even up to like 20, I’d be disappointed but I’d understand, but 45%??

I am most certainly on some amount of copium here but I am incredibly surprised at the lack of any sort of investigation or push back or god damn anything surrounding what should certainly be contested results, at the very least. This feels very very fishy to me.

I’m nearly pissed off enough to try and run for local office myself now and I hope others also feel that drive.

Only reason I haven’t done it is because I’m a nobody retail worker with no money. I can’t afford to upend my life to go campaign. And I feel that a lot of other people are in a similar boat. But I also feel that the last hundred years of American politicians have been so far up their own asses that having a regular everyman in office like myself can’t possibly be worse.

We should be able to take out a business loan or something to run for office. But also we shouldn’t have to do that.

Don’t start none won’t be none

I’m about to print off about a million of those “I did that!!” stickers that the magats loved to stick on gas pumps. You better believe those things are going everywhere.

I am a hollow shell of a man, emptied of all but schadenfreude. If we’re all going to suffer, I find peace in the fact that they’ll suffer alongside me.

I have been made into that which I hated most and now I don’t even have the energy to fight it anymore.

This is America. We are taught as little as possible in school. I promise you less than 10% of teachers know how to make an omega symbol on a computer let alone know how to teach that to a kid who has only interacted with an iPhone.

First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out…

The only reason they haven’t done even better than that is 80% of their time in office is busy fixing the last Republican fuckup before the public gets a chance to go and elect more Republicans again

Trump has openly stated that he plans to abolish voting

“they lived under better circumstances in the last Trump term”

They lived under fucking Covid in the last Trump term, when everyone was confined to their homes while supply lines disintegrated and the cost of food more than doubled, while ashes from rampant forest fires rained down from a blood red sky.

Why would you expect people to care for a democracy that means nothing to them?

Because the other alternative is to take everything you hate about the way it all works and make it objectively worse, balanced even worse out of your own favor.

Look, I do understand that American democracy is fundamentally broken, and I empathize with that. I too wish for a viable third party candidate to break us out of this hellscape. But this wasn’t the time. So instead I voted for the party that’s been pushing RCV initiatives in some areas rather than handing a win to the party that promised they would abolish elections. On one hand we have a possible path forward and on the other hand we have guaranteed destruction, I don’t like it any more than the next person but I consider a vote against guaranteed destruction to have been one that wasn’t wasted. I hate that that is what American politics have come to at this point in time but I can observe the world around me and act accordingly.